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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-05 11:45 AM
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A better idea for bringing gas prices down.
The "Don't Buy Gas Day" and "Don't Buy Gas From Exxon or Mobil" ideas will never work. Plain and simple, they will not work becaue they do nothing about demand.

Start a Don't Drive Day. That will have a bigger effect. your demand by a bit over 1/7th by making Saturday Don't Drive Day. Promote staying at home with the family. Promote being healthy by only riding a bike or walking (or running) on Saturdays. No other movement nor any form of public transportation that use fuel on this one day each week. You know you drive more on Saturdays because you go shopping, to the park or whatnot. Walk or ride a bike to activities instead. Hold off those purchases until Sunday, then make one trip.

Hit them in the pocketbook effectively. Cut your personal demand and prices must drop!
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tubbacheez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-05 11:49 AM
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1. Also, if you must drive, drive smoothly.
Hard acceleration and braking is the least efficient way to drive. Accelerate evenly and brake evenly. Coast when you can.

Every time you tap the gas pedal, you're burning money.


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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-05 11:55 AM
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2. good luck
given that saturday is the only day i have to do any errands whatesoever, and given volume of traffic on the streets on saturday, i wager i'm not alone.

sunday would be a better choice. but then you couldn't drive to church, so christians will claim its unfair.
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sui generis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-05 11:57 AM
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3. I can change my "errands" to during the week
after all, it does help clear out Saturday. Plus I HATE shopping for groceries on the weekend. I can hit the post office on the way to work when I need to. I could make this work.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-05 01:44 PM
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7. If you drive the same distance, but on a different day, you will still use
the same amount of gas. The original poster's idea is to reduce gas consumption.
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sui generis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-05 03:04 PM
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8. everything I need to do is on the way home / to work
so I actually would save quite a bit of gas - considering that I spend most of Saturday back out on the work route picking up Home Depot stuff, groceries, etc.

I live in Dallas and work in Ft. Worth
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-05 10:41 PM
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11. You take everything you do in two days
and do it on one. Get efficient and budget your time and trip.

I don't know about anybody else, but I currently drive about as much on Sunday as I do on Saturday and I could do it all on one day each week instead and still drive only one day's worth of miles.
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-05 04:21 PM
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10. It doesn't matter which day. Some people work Saturdays and Sundays
Pick one day and stick with it! If Sunday works for you, FINE. Just one day each week on which you do not drive and do not use public transportation. It matters not which day it is! That's the beauty of it! Pick a day and stick with it, you've got seven to choose from!
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-05 11:58 AM
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4. I Say We All Just Slow Down A Pinch
Cars are far more fuel efficient when they are as close to the horesepower/torque curve minima as possible.

My car hits minimum RPM just as it hits the 4th gear, which is right around 48 mph. The climb of RPM increases a lot when the speed begins to exceed about 57 or 58mph. So, i max my mileage when by staying as close to 55 as possible.

Sure, i have to leave a little sooner. But, i'm saving cash.
The Professor
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kansasblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-05 01:28 PM
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5. drive slower
and less. And walk more. (you need the exercise!)
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IrateCitizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-05 01:37 PM
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6. Gas prices are still artificially low
If they truly reflected the cost of maintaining access to oil supplies, along with the ecological costs associated with the use of gasoline, the cost per gallon would be much, much, much lower.

Ideas like this simply will not work. Personally, I think that gas prices will only go up from here on out. I think we're a scant few years away from peak oil, and from there it will become prohibitively expensive. And if we really want to do something worthwhile, we'll start taking measures to radically reduce our consumption over time, while simultaneously pushing for societal changes to adapt better when those rougher times arrive.
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zyzxx Donating Member (11 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-05 04:14 PM
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9. I would go one further..
and say do it both days of the weekend.

You can run errands during the week, and the time spent with families at home would do wonders for society.

Plus, maybe it would make all these businesses close on Sundays. Remember when we were kids and everyone used to have the day off on Sundays and virtually everything was closed?
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KnowerOfLogic Donating Member (841 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 01:36 AM
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15. Whoa there, some of us don't think sunday is any different than any other
day of the week, and frankly, i hate it when things are closed sunday, because i'll be in the middle of doing something or trying to fix something, and can't go to the store to get what i need, because it's sunday.
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-05 10:51 PM
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12. This is not a single bullet solution, we're gonna need many approaches
The simple fact is car manufacturers and big oil have retarded the development of a US mass transit system. We don't even have light rail in many cities at all. We don't have bullet trains connecting all our great cities together. Many of us drive to work, and there's no way around it.

If you want to really hit demand, you must advocate doing everything. For those who cannot get to work without driving, then they should carpool. For those who can go to work without the car, then walk or use mass transit. The solution should be holistic in order that everybody has a stake in it.

The Don't Drive Day is a good start, but what do we say to those who have to work on weekends and need to commute to work? There are millions of people who are in this category.
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KnowerOfLogic Donating Member (841 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 01:32 AM
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13. Prices are never coming down; the market has shown that it will bear
the present high prices, so why *would* any distributor lower their prices?
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democracyindanger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 01:36 AM
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14. Yep. But it's the right idea, wrong reason.
The goal shouldn't be to bring gas prices down, but to begin transitioning from fossil fuels.

'Course, that's even a harder sell.

Couching it as "spending more time with your family" is an interesting angle, though.
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