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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-05 11:57 AM
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Hundreds Trapped in Bangladesh Sweatshop Collapse
I can't believe this isn't on the news. Well, yeah I can, but I had really hoped the media wouldn't ignore this. For those who just couldn't understand what Ward Churchill was saying, well this is it. If you're trading in the stocks of these companies, you're responsible for these kinds of tragedies. Just as much as if you were an owner of a factory like this in NYC.


I can only hope that this has the monumental effect of the Triangle Shirtwaste Fire. Bangladesh was the site of the garment factory campaign, joined by Mary Kate and Ashley Olsen last year, against corporations including WalMart, Disney and Kohl’s. That fight was for companies to adhere to the already mandated maternity leave for the women who earn as little as 8 cents an hour to sew 60 garments an hour. I’ve written about the conditions of these garment factories before, and encouraged people to participate in the anti-sweatshop campaign at Christmas. We cannot talk about freedom and democracy while we leave those very people in the grimmest conditions of poverty and despair. It surely isn’t to have a cheaper pair of jeans either, because I haven’t noticed the price of jeans going down since garment manufacturing has been outsourced. This is just incredibly sad.

Links & Story:
http://www.lightupthedarkness.org/blog/default.asp?view=plink&id=703
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tx_dem41 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-05 12:09 PM
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1. Bangaldeshis don't count....
In fact, there are too many of them anyway. :sarcasm:

I think you'll find this feeling stated in my subject heading knows no party and/or ideological boundaries. My guess is that this thread gets few responses and, thus, proves my point. But, then again, hopefully I'll be wrong.
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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-05 12:18 PM
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3. They had video on the local news last nite...
KTVU Channel 2 (Oakland, CA). They also showed the heroic Code Pink demonstrators at the Senate hearing.

KTVU is a Fox affiliate, but it is the San Francisco Bay Area, so.....all things considered, they aren't really that bad....(sometimes).
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-05 01:04 PM
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5. Guess you're right
Maybe if they'd been doing the butt dance while the building collapsed...
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tx_dem41 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-05 01:07 PM
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6. You made me chuckle, though it was laced with sadness.
Sorry to be a downer.
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laundry_queen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-05 03:42 PM
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11. Sadly I know people who think like that.
Absolutely disgusting. I hope this thread gets more responses also.

Those poor people. :cry:
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CornField Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-05 12:16 PM
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2. This was discussed on MSNBC earlier
I guess they view it as a public service announcment: "Go buy your cheap crap today because the price is gonna increase!" Gotta keep those economy cogs moving, ya know... :puke:
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-05 01:02 PM
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4. On Ron's show?
That's the only one I can imagine talking about it. That are in the wee hours of the morning before anybody is watching. I've noticed that sometimes real news plays at 4 in the morning, west coast time. And then you never see it again. There wasn't anything on CNN, I flipped to MSNBC, and still nothing. So frustrating.
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CornField Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-05 01:14 PM
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8. I'm honestly not sure
I have the television on in the other room. I work from home and only catch bits and pieces -- I remember it being discussed, but I can't remember who's voice I was hearing. Sorry about that. I think the time-frame would make it about right for the Coast to Coast show with Ron.
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SmokingJacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-05 01:12 PM
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7. I can't believe it's on the news either.
It's great we have anti-sweatshop laws for workers in America, but what's the point if we just wear clothes made elsewhere?

Disgusting.
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-05 03:28 PM
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9. If American LABOR is going to compete,
we'll need to cancel OSHA and other worker protections.
No way can we expect the CEO's and Investor Class to pay for Safe Working Conditions if they can increase profits by going to the 3rd World.

YEAH!!! FREE TRADE RULES!!!!!
EVERYBODY IN THE TOP 1% GONNA GET RICHER!!!
:woohoo:
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-05 03:38 PM
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10. Well where is everybody????
People could use this to show why we need to support labor and human rights laws overseas. Average people don't believe that US corporations would really treat people like this and truly believe that the wages are fair considerng the economies foreign workers live in. They don't understand that their investment and consumer practices are killing people.

Trade isn't the problem. The lack of support for unions, enforcement of treaty laws we do have, enforcement of laws in foreign countries, and pushing for more laws is what we need to do.

It's like Caesar Chavez in the 60's & 70's. He didn't attack farming and interstate sales of produce, he attacked the labor practices. That's what we need to do with trade.
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-05 04:43 PM
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12. This single issue (Free Trade) , or Global Corps
raping and looting of 3rd World countries without regulation or oversight...This single issue will will affect Quality of Life
and distribution of resources (wealth) not just for Americans, but for EVERYBODY on the Planet!!!!

Much more than:
Who does or doesn't get an abortion.

Who does or doesn't get married.

Who does or doesn't buy a gun!

Who does or doesn't pull a feeding tube,



As long as Big Money is allowed to focus the public debate on the above issues, the Ultra Rich
(CEO's & Investor Class, top .25% ) will continue the rape of American LABOR and 3rd World countries.




" As the Republicans were coming back from the wilderness - lean, mean and hungry - Democrats were busy assimilating their opponents' belief system. In no small part because they coveted the same corporate money, Democrats practically walked away from the politics of struggle, leaving millions of working people with no one to fight for them... Even as poverty spreads, inequality grows, and our quality of life diminishes, democrats have become the doves of class warfare."---Bill Moyers

http://www.pbs.org/now/commentary/moyers20.html


If an issue is not talked about on TV...., is it REAL?

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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-05 04:49 PM
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13. Yes it is
That's why Kerry talking about increased labor laws, human rights and environmental laws in trade agreements was so important. Too bad Bill Moyers didn't write that up during the campaign.
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-05 05:19 PM
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14. nominating & kicking
This needs more exposure.
:kick:
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-05 05:24 PM
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15. thank you
It really does. The lack of interest makes me wonder about some people's real motivations when yelling about free trade. If it's just to protect their own ass, then that's pretty disgusting too.
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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-05 07:15 PM
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16. This is horrible!
:cry::cry::cry::cry:

Maybe it's guilt...knowing in my own ignorance, having purchased products because they were "cheap" have in my own way, helped in continuing these conditions...This is truly horrible
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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-05 07:21 PM
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17. Bump
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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-05 07:21 PM
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18. Bump....this needs to be seen
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-05 09:50 PM
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21. I know how you feel
I had always known about the sweat shops. I always thought it was foreign countries and it's difficult to get them to change. When I read about the Marianas, and that our own government had set up a system that allowed sweat shops and indentured workers there, I felt like ripping off all my clothes, I was so horrified. That's the model for Bush's "guest worker" program, by the way. The Mariana Islands. :scared:
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entanglement Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-05 07:27 PM
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19. Yeah, but there's more
important stuff to report like Britney Spears' pregnancy.
:sarcasm:
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smirkymonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-05 07:44 PM
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20. Very sad and completely unneccesary but for the greed of
corporations.

Kick! :kick:
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