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dave502d Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-05 03:52 PM
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Vote Fraud is Real- Wake Up America.
If you listen to all five audios, you will understand that beyond doubt, something fishy went down in Ohio. The point being that there were tons of irregularities, glitches and even intentional fraud, yet the media AND the democratic ’leadership’ dismissed this as something to fix for next time. The proof of the stolen election is in the coverup (and of course all of the facts that were covered up).

http://bellaciao.org/en/article.php3?id_article=5738
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caty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-05 04:44 PM
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1. vote fraud
Ever since the fraud that took place in Florida, I refer to Bush as the non-president. Now with the Ohio fraud--four more years with a non-president.
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-05 06:13 PM
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6. Hi caty!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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TheWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-05 06:50 PM
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8. I'm actually surprised this thread has that many responses
Most people simply don't want to deal with this issue at all. Maybe because it scares them too much, because it is something they cannot control, they would much rather focus on the illusion that things can still work democratically, they think it's all a "conspiracy theory", etc., etc., etc.

Wishing something is not true, or ignoring it, does not make it untrue, nor does it have any affect on the ongoing consequences of ignoring said issue.

I have posted several times on DU about the fact that four PRIVATE corporations control the Electronic Voting Infrastructure in this country, all with heavy financial and various other ties to GOP Interests, as well as The Christian Reconstructionsist Movement. The Machines are easily hackable, there is no Paper Trail or Audit, and it is basically the perfect apparatus for fraud. I know I am being a Broken Record, but it is no more a Broken record than those who simply repeat over and over that bush won the Election, yet refuse to even acknowledge the obvious suspiciousness of the Corporate Owned Voting Machine Infrastructure.

Does anyone HONESTLY believe that if the technology and infrastructure is available to make theft possible, after ALL that these people have done, that they would not use it? That they have not ALREADY used it?

HONESTLY?

Mike Malloy covered this in great detail on his Nov. 3rd Show right after the Election, and Greg Palast warned everyone on Mike's Show that the fix was in a week before the Election.

Hardly anyone wanted to believe it then, and hardly anyone wants to believe it now.

I stress WANTS to believe it. I think many people deep down know exactly what has happened, and they are not yet ready to deal with it, for whatever reason.

But it HAS happened, and it will continue unless something is done about it.

The Question is, "What Can We DO?"

There will be no answer to this question until there is enough awareness and willingness to embrace the concept.

We ignore this at our Peril.

There will NEVER be a Free Election in this country again if this issue is not dealt with.

Period.
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Selteri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-05 04:48 PM
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2. Again, as I've said many times, DUH
What do you expect when they end up with more voters than residents in a county.
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Melodybe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-05 05:03 PM
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3. sign the petition
www.verifiedvoting.org
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Selteri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-05 05:08 PM
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4. Already had, but it's a great idea.
Thanks.
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info being Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-05 05:40 PM
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5. Of course. Our democracy is dead.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-05 06:15 PM
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7. Where's the usual suspects
to tell us that no only are we dreaming, we are stupid as well.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-05 06:53 PM
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9. dave502d, Great post and resource. This is the fundamental issue.
We can win everytiime but if the vote count is bogus, at any point in the process, we'll lost just enough to stay out of power.

DU has been a wonderful catalyst for the election fraud movement. This is a very helpful post!
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TheWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-05 06:59 PM
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10. As I said up the thread
Edited on Tue Apr-12-05 07:01 PM by TheWatcher
There will NEVER be a free election in this country again unless something is done about this issue.

The easiest Cop Out I usually see on this is "But there is no verifiable Proof."

OF COURSE THERE ISN'T. There is NO PAPER TRAIL. No AUDIT.

There is no way to view the Source Code of the machines because it is owned by a PRIVATE COMPANY and is proprietary.

And yet despite all of this, people think they are still going to play fair and not use this OBVIOUS vessel for fraud?

If the thugs in Power will not be our demise, our Denial surely will be.

Great Post, dave502d. Everyone needs to wake up on this.
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HamdenRice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-05 07:00 PM
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11. Congressional democrats official conclusion: Vote Fraud!
I find it staggering also that all DUers and democrats in general don't accept that the election was stolen.

The Democratic staff of the House Judiciary Committee investigated Ohio (the Conyers Commission) and concluded that if there had not been fraud and intimidation and misallocation of voting machines the Democrats would have won Ohio and hence the national election:

http://www.house.gov/judiciary_democrats/ohiostatusrept1505.pdf

This is an official document of the Congress. What more do people need???
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-05 07:00 PM
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12. I cannot begin to tell you how many letters and calls I made about,...
,...the Diebold problem practically begging one full year before this past election that it be addressed. *sigh*

At least, there are far more representatives who are now convinced that paperless systems are totally unacceptable in circumstances where fraud can so easily be perpetrated.
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