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DistressedAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 12:44 AM
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What Ever Happened To The Chinese National Arrested Outside The Capital???
I have been trying to track down additional info on what happened to the guy arrested the other day outside the Capital Building. The last reporting was that he was a Chinese national with out identification. He was arrested after approaching the building with two suitcases. When approached by Capital Hill police officers, he merely stated that he wanted to see the president then refused to move or say anything else.

My guess is that the poor guy was an asylum seeker. I think this poor guy, who was tackled and dragged off just had a misguided sense of what FREEDOM means in American today.

I picture him saving his money to smuggle himself over here in whatever horrible conditions so that he could walk up to that great symbol of freedom, the United States Capital Building where he would finally be free from government oppression. At the end of his long arduous journey only to be slammed face first into the ground, his luggage (probably containing ALL OF HIS BELONGINGS) blown up, and him disappeared into the US Military Gulag system.

Where are you Chinese "John Doe"?

Do you have a lawyer?

Have they allowed you to sleep?

Have you been turned over to another government for "questioning"?

Will we EVER KNOW what happened to you or who you were?

I AM SO SORRY THAT THIS MAN CONTROLS YOUR FATE!



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phusion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 12:50 AM
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1. I've been wondering the same thing...
Did not hear a peep about this guy after seeing him dragged away. I hold your same concerns. :(

The poor guy probably didn't speak much English, either.

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DistressedAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 12:53 AM
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3. I Assume He Memorized His Request To See The President...
Edited on Fri Apr-15-05 12:53 AM by DistressedAmerican
He was being held on charges of "disobeying a police officer". He probably never understood the orders given. I bet he understood all of the guns pointed at him.

People were asking why he was just standing there. Most assumed he was deranged. I just think he believed the hype! Tragic really.

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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 12:58 AM
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5. I'll bet you have to have some command of english to get Aussie
...citizenship. The guy was nuts, they sent him home.
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AussieDave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 12:51 AM
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2. Apparently he's from Sydney, Australia
Edited on Fri Apr-15-05 12:56 AM by AussieDave
- he's an Australian of Chinese ancestry. Here's an article from ABC Australia:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200504/s1343932.htm
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 12:57 AM
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4. He was AUSTRALIAN, he was CRAZY and he was DEPORTED
He had emigrated from China to Australia, and was a passport holder from there. He spoke fine English, demanded to see the President, in fact. He was apparently off his meds and talking ragtime. Because he could not participate in any defense, as he was totally off the page, the government said screw it and sent him back to Australia. He's on the "stay out of the USA" list (along with anyone else with the same or similar name).

There was a huge thread on this a few days ago.
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DistressedAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 01:03 AM
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7. Very Interesting. Thanks. I'll Look For The Other Thread.
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WillowTree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 01:06 AM
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8. You're entirely right, of course.
But you'll have to admit that the original post showed a substantially better flair for high drama.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 01:33 AM
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9. Yeah, you are right about that
A well-off, crazy Chinese Australian getting deported doesn't have as much cachet as, and certainly not the drama of, an oppressed freedom lover, I suppose. Oh well!!
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DistressedAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 05:16 AM
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10. Does Seems To Me Like His Competency Should Have Been Evaluated By
Edited on Fri Apr-15-05 05:16 AM by DistressedAmerican
the courts. I am pretty unfamiliar with such procedures but, don't they have to give you a deportation hearing or something before the government can just say "screw it" and put you on a slow boat?

Maybe I'm way off? Don't rightly know.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 05:34 AM
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11. That would only happen if they charged him
They didn't do that. They could have--failure to obey the orders of a police officer and creating a public nuisance are two that come immediately to mind. They did have a doc look at him, and the doc determined that he would not be able to participate in his own defense. They figured by the time they got done with him, it was way more efficient and easier to just deport him. Also, he was here as a tourist, he did not have any immigration status, under new laws that let Australians in to visit and vacation without any visa at all. However, the US retains the right to invoke visa procedures, which they did, and they booted him out.

The Australian government has not raised any objections, they're taking him back. They're probably glad to be able to just get him out of the spotlight, so he doesn't tarnish their rep.
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The Stranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 10:31 AM
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15. But first they ATTACKED AND KNOCKED HIM TO THE GROUND,
. . . and proceeded to DRAG HIM OFF, where they probably BEAT THE SHIT OUT OF HIM.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 03:39 PM
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16. O.......K......
Let's worry about his rights, when he is standing in front of the Congress with two bags, talking ragtime, demanding to see the chimp, for three hours.

He was damn lucky the Cap Police used that quick, non-lethal takedown method, when they could have justified shooting the guy.

I gather you don't have any friends or relatives working on the Hill. I do. I am pleased that the police took swift action in this case, and did what they had to do to remove a potential threat. It tells me they aren't totally asleep at the wheel.

Where would you be standing on this issue had the crazy guy's suitcases gone "boom" and we were smack dab in the middle of yet another 9-11? Would you worry about that guy's rights, or would you be excoriating our sloppy government for failing to stop the threat?

Keep in mind, the guy did this on MONDAY, the ELEVENTH. The Towers and the Pentagon were hit on the ELEVENTH day of the month, the Madrid Bombing took place on the ELEVENTH day of the month. There was a logical reason for the police to be alert, proactive and decisive in this case.

If you can't see that, well, you can't see that.
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caledesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 12:59 AM
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6. Mike Malloy "did a tune" on this story
Isn't it amazing that they drag this guy and torch his suitcases bec he said he "wanted to talk to the president?"

Meanwhile we have Jeff Gannon/Guckett or whatever the hell his name is asking question DIRECTLY to the president. Now that makes sense, doesn't it?
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MsTryska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 10:16 AM
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13. You know....
a few years ago, i was watching some form of "The World's Most Outrageous Television".


They had a clip from some Middle Eastern "candid camera" type show.


The clip they showed was of a guy setting down a suitcase in the middle of a sidewalk and then running away. The great humor was in the way people ran for their lives, jumped over bushes and essentially cowered from what they thought was impending bomb blasts.




in post 9/11 US of A - if you hangout within bombing distance of any Federal Office sporting suitcases, dressed in black, and loitering - you're asking for trouble.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 06:41 AM
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12. he was paid for his contribution
to *'s fear war and released?
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 10:27 AM
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14. last I heard he has Australian citizenship
and that he was taken to the Capitol jail.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 03:44 PM
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17. Read this
The United States has deported an Australian citizen who was arrested on Capitol Hill after a bomb scare earlier this week, an immigration spokesman said Friday.

"U.S. Immigrations and Customs Enforcement has removed Wenhao Zhao," said spokesman Michael Keegan. "ICE will not tolerate menacing conduct by visitors to the United States and we will remove anyone who carries on such as he did.

Keegan said Zhao was escorted by ICE officials to Australia where he was met by government officials.

Zhao raised suspicions Monday after he stood outside the Capitol for about an hour with two black suitcases and demanded to see President Bush. The area was evacuated, roads were closed and tours stopped.
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/nation/terror/20050415-0818-congress-incident.html
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theboss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 03:57 PM
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18. He was not charged and deported
He's Australia's problem now.

But I like your imagination.
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