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JohnnyRingo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 01:19 PM
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A revelation on the bankuptcy bill
I heard on CNN that Buxh was "anxious to sign the new bankruptcy bill when it reached his desk".

Then they mentioned the part that sends a bankruptcy applicant to a judge to determine monthly payments to the credit card companies.

I'm not a lawyer, but it would seem failure to meet the court ordered payments would result in contempt charges.....and the equivalent of "debtors prison".

Welcome to the 19th century.
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Jose Diablo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 01:47 PM
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1. Yes, people go to jail for contempt of court
what I don't see though, is how will putting someone in jail, pay the debt? Unless the corporations can then use the cheap prison labor and pay pennies on the dollar in return to the labor. That amounts to permanent involuntary servitude, itself outlawed within the constitution.

But if it comes to a constitutional test, I am sure what this 'government' stand would be. I doubt the real test will be in a court of law.
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lectrobyte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 01:51 PM
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3. Well, people in jail are good for Bidness. See, we'll need to
build more jails, which are all privatized, right? Then the people in jail can be used for telemarketing, call center jobs, all kind of stuff, and paid pennies. Used to do human clinical trials for new drugs on prisoners, too.
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 01:51 PM
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4. Two words: Prison labor
No minimum wage. Essentially, you have slave labor, debt-slave labor.
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Batgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 02:11 PM
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8. it's all starting to make sense now
Building a Debtor's Prison labor force is really a Republican jobs-creation program.
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 01:52 PM
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5. There's already corporations using cheap prison labor here
I wouldn't be so sure about the constitution protecting us from this, apart from the makeup of the Supreme Court right now, since the same thing could apply to Stop Loss policies in the military, and those who are forced to pay restitution in prison out of their corporate prison wages.

I think they might well have this New Debtor's Prison in mind.

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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 01:50 PM
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2. they would first garnish the debtors wages and have a lien on
their property...ie home and if neither of those 2 things can be done because of unemployment or not owning a home then i suppose contempt of court would be next. I would think it would be a civil action so i don't know if the debtor could actually be jailed, it's pretty scary scenario. Maybe legal minds could weigh in on it.
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ArkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 01:56 PM
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6. In Vino Veritas...
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Coastie for Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 02:08 PM
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7. Another challenge for the new lawyers fresh out of law school
Edited on Fri Apr-15-05 02:08 PM by Coastie for Truth
the lawyer daughters and sons of the lawyers who brought the local school integration and voting rights cases of the 1960's, and challenged local draft boards.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=3484940&mesg_id=3485064

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jean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 02:44 PM
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9. bush is the worst abuser of credit in the world! And he has nothing
held over his head making him act responsibly. He just keeps charging up more credit - isn't about 40% of it with China and the Saudi's?
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