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lonelysoul2020 Donating Member (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 06:35 PM
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Have the Minutemen broken any laws?
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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 06:36 PM
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1. Is that an editorial?
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lonelysoul2020 Donating Member (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-05 12:43 AM
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24. My mistake
on putting it in the wrong forum. I'm still new here and I need to remember what forum I'm in.



BTW Thank you mod for moving it to general discussion.
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mourningdove92 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 06:40 PM
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2. No, unless you consider Americans walking on American
Edited on Fri Apr-15-05 06:41 PM by mourningdove92
soil, armed with cellphones, breaking the law. Which in King Georges America, would not surprise me.

I totally support what the Minutemen are doing and would like to see them come to Texas. Not only are they bringing to light the non stop invasion of illegal aliens in our country....even better,


THEY ARE MAKING DUBYA LOOK BAD.


works for me
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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 06:42 PM
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3. Whatever...
It was a lovely editorial after all. It was just chock full of interesting facts and arguments. :eyes:
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merwin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 06:43 PM
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4. It's a bit more complicated than that. Compare it to a group of people
saying that their city's crime is out of control. So, they arm themselves and take to the streets, with the goal to call the police when they see something illegal.

It might start out innocently, but whenever you get a bunch of armed men with testosterone flying attempting to catch criminals, you end up with a very bad situtation where people WILL get hurt.

There's already been allegations of these Minutemen illegally detaining Mexicans just because they're Mexican and the person thinks that they're illegal.
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TheFarseer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 06:49 PM
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5. I agree
of course this isn't a permanent solution, but I'm glad someone is calling attention to the problem. Whether anything will be done is another story.
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 08:09 PM
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11. They aren't armed solely with cell phones
and if you looked at the leaders of the org, it is led by racists...furthermore, yesterday an unaffiliated person held 7 people at gunpoint...a copycat, but a copycat thanks to the Minutemen
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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 09:02 PM
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23. hey i heard about that one i think?
when the Law finally showed up they arrested the lone bubba with a gun and charged him with aggravated assault, right?

it was on Stephanie Miller's show that i heard the details i think, but listen to Jones/AAR all day long so could have been another show.

dp
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lonelysoul2020 Donating Member (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-05 12:47 AM
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25. Just because
they're led by racists doesn't mean there breaking the law. Yes they aren't just armed with cell phones. Some have concealed hand gun license so some are armed but still all legal.
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Moderator DU Moderator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 07:07 PM
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6. Moving to General Discussion
The more appropriate forum for it.

DU Moderator
Editorials and Other Articles
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democracyindanger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 07:09 PM
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7. Many white power rallies are perfectly legal
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 07:37 PM
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8. No..bigotry is legal...so is scapegoating
Edited on Fri Apr-15-05 07:38 PM by nothingshocksmeanymo
If you support the Minutemen, then welcome to DU..I suppose you'll fit right in
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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-05 09:02 AM
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32. Yes, bigotry that has no consequences or illegal actions is legal.
Most DUers, I think, would dislike the idea of thought crimes, and making speech that any individual finds offensive illegal. The old "think one thing, say another, and do a third" maxim for proper behavior is, I think, rather repugnant when compelled by mandated speech codes.

I may not like that the ACLU supports the Klan's freedom of speech, but I support the ACLU.
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solinvictus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 07:41 PM
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9. Not that I'm aware of...
but with some of the talk around here, you'd think they were setting up sniper positions to take out illegals.
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 07:43 PM
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10. So where do you think this guy got the idea?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x1391125
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solinvictus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 08:11 PM
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12. If they were illegal...
I can't see the point of charging the sergeant with anything. He was doing what our government refuses: attempting to enforce the law and secure our southern border.
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 08:22 PM
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17. Yeah..but they just looked illegal to him...what's next?
Holding people who LOOK like drug dealers at gun point?

The seargeant falsely imprisoned people and held them at gunpoint.

How about if I pull a gun on you the next time I see you driving too fast since the government refuses to put enough cops on the street for every speeder?
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democracyindanger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 08:22 PM
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18. How did he know they were illegal?
Did he say, "Vere are your paperz?!?"

Oh, wait, I know--he could just "tell."
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 08:30 PM
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21. They had that greasy illegal look to them *sarcasm*
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democracyindanger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 08:34 PM
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22. Or maybe it was
"HAAAAAAARMY TRAINING!"
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lonelysoul2020 Donating Member (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-05 12:52 AM
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26. even if they were illegal
what he did was still illegal. What he did was TRUE vigilantism weather the people he detained are illegals are not is beside the point. HE broke the law. Now if the people he detained are illegal then he goes to jail and they get deported as well every one is happy. (in a way)
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 08:14 PM
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13. No. Neither did the S.A. when they went after the Jews.
But, like their brownshirted inspirations the "minutemen" are a pack of rednecked bigots going after helpless people.
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mourningdove92 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 08:17 PM
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15. helpless people?
You mean, helpless people who are intentionally violating our laws? Helpless people who are sneaking over the border. Helpless people who refuse to make the effort to enter our country legally?

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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 08:23 PM
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19. How do you know they refused to make the effort to enter legally?
If a Cuban makes it all the way to our country, they get to stay.
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lonelysoul2020 Donating Member (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-05 12:53 AM
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27. and that is illegal how??
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K-W Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 08:15 PM
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14. Who cares if they broke any laws.
Not everything that is legal is a good idea, ethical action, or wise decision.
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lonelysoul2020 Donating Member (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-05 12:57 AM
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28. good idea , bad idea what ever it is
they are doing what they set out to do. Bring attention to the border problem. If they aren't doing anything illegal attack there message not just them being there.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 08:19 PM
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16. oh look, another ring and run! Stop opening the door
and falling for it people, no one is there.
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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 08:24 PM
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20. Ain't that the truth.
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lonelysoul2020 Donating Member (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-05 12:59 AM
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29. sorry to disappoint you
but this is NOT me just trying to start a flame war. I really want to discuss this.
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lonelysoul2020 Donating Member (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-05 02:27 AM
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30. I'll be back later
but I still want to discuss this
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-05 02:39 AM
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31. Fornication with farm animals is illegal. Minutemen are guilty.
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Moderator DU Moderator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-05 09:31 AM
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33. Locking....
This is inflammatory.


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