Doesn't ANYBODY want to criticise Wes Clark tonight?

I mean, the Pope is big news and all that, but a Clarkista like me is likely to feel neglected without somebody posting something knocking the General.

How about how he organised the baby seal hunts while he headed NATO?

Anything?

I'm so lonely...

rather than ask for a negative one.

How come Wesley K. Clark is so damn AWESOME!! :woohoo:

other than his vocal resemblance to Dubya (can you imagine listening to these two debate over radio?), he seems like good people.

than negative ones.

Apart from the fact that both have vaguely Sourthern accents (Bush's is faux-Texan; Clark's is mildly Arkansan), there is no similarity at all. Not only can Clark pronounce "nuclear," he can actually speak in complete and intelligible sentences and express complex thoughts. Bush... not so much.

I think their voices are very similar as I do

Ed Schultz & Rush Limbaugh

Al Michaels, Alan Alda & Howard Stern

Al Stewart & Neil Tennant (of the Pet Shop Boys)

Michael Jordan & Isaac Hayes

But OF COURSE Clark is more intelligent than Bush... I KNOW THAT...

; )

Thank god for the Internets and forumses like this where we can practice our love on each other.

Unlike our holy leader bush who lead thousands on innocent PEOPLE to their deaths over a LIE!

I think he could be a good candidate, especially with a few more years of campaign experience. And he has the undeniable virtue of not being "unlectable Hillary," which goes a long way with me.

But don't you think it's a little, I don't know . . . um WEENY to be whining about not being attacked?

I can think of no higher praise.

and he won our dem. Primary!!!

then stay in the DU Clark forum or go to a Clark discussion board. DU is for debate, not a vehicle for someone to promote their favorite candidate without critical responses.

You sound like Queen Victoria after someone farted.

Even Clarkies like to have fun once in a while.

:rofl:

Nice comic relief.

:)

I've heard conflicting things about that from different Clark supporters.

It's my understanding that he didn't.

for the party. He also said to his supporters that he will "take their advice" on running. There is a lot he can do to help, he still has a big grassroot following.

Time to moveon.

is sounding like a Valley Girl.

............he ruined me for anybody else.

he was immature and wet his pants!

his supporters don't seem to know who their friends are. Like this flame bait thread. I don't like the gang mentality. I read a thread about a week ago were at least a dozen ATTACKED a well versed long time DU'er for pointing out an out right falsehood they were laying against Dean and Edwards. They were in total denial of basic reality. It was like listening to the bushies.

The woman being attacked was virtually begging for some help because of the way they were ganging up on her, but it was 2:00 am and no one was around to help. The thread was dead cause it was 24 hours old so I didn't get there in time. But it was quite disgraceful. I did take the time to mail the victim and thanking her for defense of the other candidates and the party, explaining I wished I could have found the thread live so I could help.

I think we need to start to keep a closer eye on these tactics as they are clearly attempting for an unfair advantage. Like a come out announcement just five months after the last general election. There are a few of these kinds of signs of manipulation beginning to rear the standard old ugly head. I hate to say this but I think we may have to call for an alert on the Clarkies. I'm pretty sure they don't see the damage they are doing to their candidate, so I'm nearly positive they won't see when they damage the party for single minded gain.

You don't look at many Clark related threads do you? Take a look at the GDP forum. There are a couple there now. What you will see is the typical case where positive threads are turned into flame fests by some who have made it their mission to besmurch Clark any chance they get. I challenge anyone reading this to show me similar recent threads on any other 2004 democratic candidate.

Clark supporters don't feel to welcome around here most of the time and tend to get defensive. Its a natural reaction to watching such a high percentage of threads about him turned into little wars.

Clark did not announce his intentions for 2008. He signaled to supporters that he was considering it that it was a possibility that depended on them.

See you around.

I've been reading them. I think the Clarkies need to read their threads and try to look at their presentations. What usually happens is they start posting and most DUers go on to another thread (assumption because most DUers don't post responses) so you get a litany of clarkies talking clarkie. When someone does try to rationally discuss the attack begins. It's pretty obvious most DUers just don't want to feed into flame wars. Don't just believe me go read them and see for yourself. Clarkies are acting like they're in the middle of the campaign primaries, just five months after the last election. I don't see the kind of attacks by any other supporters of other candidates. I'm not saying none, I'm saying very few. This is not the case with clarkies.

Please, your not in the middle of the primaries.
Please, discuss not attack.
Please, we're your friends not your enemies.
Please, we're organizing democrats not clarkies.
Please, I'd suggest organizing for candidates is about 2007.

Now I'm not anti clark. If things don't get weirder and Clark gets the nod I might vote for him. But the very idea to jump the gun on the race is unfair and won't help your cause or the democratic cause.

since I was referring to threads on positive democratic party messages that were basically spammed by Clark bashers.

We could let the smears go unanswered sure. And there are many times when they do simply because people have limited time to spend on answering the repeated nonsense.

I agree with you that we should be focusing on whats important for the party and not the next presidential cycle. And Clarkies do need to work on that. On the other hand its obviously exciting for his supporters to see a man in the private sector signaling he is considering a possible run. I am sure this will calm down over the next few days, I hope.

Thanks for the brief discussion.

A masters in economics, isn't it???

That makes him pretty horrible in my book.

on fighting a drug war if thats what you mean. He has talked about his own history which is that he has never used illegal drugs.

for it. Proudly mounted on my mantle. If you want to start a flame war about Clark, post something people might object to!

I don't really. I actually like Wesley Clark. But now you can counter my non-argument with a hagiography of the general. :)

HagiographyO8)

1. Reads
2. Writes
3. Thinks
4. Loves
5. Speaks
6. Acts
7. Leaps tall buildings in a single bound (except on Sundays).

NOT!





:loveya:

How dare he say such 'unamerican' things like this:

"Freedom and dignity spring from within the human heart. They are not imposed. And inside the human heart is where the impetus for political change must be generated." Wes Clark, 2004, Washington Monthly"

It is, well, almost, 'traitorous'!

And, even worse, Canadians like me admire and respect him, geez, that shows, again, how horrible he must be!

He came across very well-showed a sense of humor, but never backed down about any democratic position. He did it without appearing mean, too.