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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-05 11:44 AM
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488 years later-take THAT Martin Luther!!!

Luther nails his 95 propositions, or theses,
to the door of All Saints Church, Wittenberg.
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efhmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-05 11:46 AM
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1. Didn't the catholic church finally admit that indulgences were not right
and that one could pray to God without intercession?
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-05 11:48 AM
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2. I must have missed mass that day
and others

Actually I haven't attended a church service in......oh....... 28? years
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ender Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-05 11:49 AM
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3. selling indulgences is wrong...
however, indulgences are not wrong per se...

back in 2000, you were got a plenary indulgence if you visited all the parishes inside you diocese.
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efhmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-05 11:56 AM
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5. OMG, they still exist. What was the point of that. So you still believe
you can pray your way out of heaven and that good works supersedes grace.
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ender Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-05 11:59 AM
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7. WIthout works, grace is meaningless
of course they exist...

Do you believe that we are just piles of dung, and only by being blanketted in god's grace like a white snow, can we sneak into heaven (paraphrased luther)?
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efhmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-05 12:02 PM
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9. You left out a lot in that paraphrase. We'll never agree on this one.
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cassandra uprising Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-05 12:05 PM
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10. the concept of indulgences
I'm by no means a scholar, but i think I am correct in saying that one of Luther's major beefs with the RC church was the concept of indulgences. In Luther's day, lay members could buy indulgences (in the form of giving money to the church) as a means of guaranteeing their place in heaven.

This practice has since changed (with Vatican II? -I'm not sure).

Indulgences are now granted through praying the rosary and what is refereed to as the intersession of the saints. Catholics pray to the saints and Mary to intercede on their behalf. It's my understanding that it's a means dipping into the good deeds fund left by the saints.

(note: I am a practicing catholic, but I was raised without having it's dogma slammed down my throat, so I'm not so up on my catechism.)
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Democrats_win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-05 11:53 AM
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4. Sort of anti-climactic given the bloody wars fought in their names.
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RPM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-05 11:58 AM
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6. i have been to wittenberg
i took my picture with those doors - pretty cool
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DemGirl7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-05 11:59 AM
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8. According to the Daily Show last week
Edited on Wed Apr-20-05 12:00 PM by DemGirl7
Pope RatMan IS Martin Luther, Well thats what I got from the graphics in that fake attack ad...sorry don't understand Latin..lol


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