Poll: Catholics Who Think Ratzinger is a Good Pick

In a recent DU poll, over 20% of DU Catholics categorize Ratzinger as a 'good' pick. In light of his aggressive stance on GLBT people in particular, stating that their inclination is a moral evil

I don't like him. I don't wish to call him my Pope.

It must be very difficult to see your church heading in the direction it is. I am not Catholic-bashing here at all. I support you 100% and I hope you win your fight. Please, keep fighting! Don't give up! :hug:

It is really depressing. I guess I'll keep my faith and practice of such close to the vest. One thing we have in our favor is he's old!

How long can this last.

How different is he from JPII if he was helping to write alot of JP's speeches. That's what I wonder. It looks like a "stay the course" vote to me.

I'll need to go to confession for it but it does give me hope.

...so sorry for you, and fellow lefties who are Catholic. What you guys would be going through right now, would be devastating to say the least.

I was recently talking with Sapphocrat about attending a Destiny church (off shoot to the Catholic church only more accepting) but if I find they support Pope Benedict (and I will be polite and not add more to his name) I will stay right away from them as well.

I think you're evil too!

I'd like to know if you think that, say, the other papal choices would have been worse on some other important issue and I would like to know what that issue is.

I think he is a hardliner which is very sad. The old time Catholic saying was that the body is merely the temple of the spirit. The cells composing your physical body are not "sinful" So if, being gay is a genetic condition then it cannot be sinful. I find it sad that in these troubled times, leaders are arising that are dividers and not uniters.

that is I believe those who have a rabid hatred for either Catholicism or just religion in general will vote in the poll to make Catholics and Christians look bad, to further their own agenda.

I won't be voting since I'm not of the Roman church.

I don't want skewed results. I want blunt honesty. Lying does no one a bit of good. Why lie if you truly believe?

It is possible that the results could be skewed but I am certain there are DUers who believe my relationship is evil because I have spoken to them.

and then crow on FR and my blog about the homophobe Dems.

they didn't have to pick a former Nazi Gunner who never renounced his service to the Nazi's, nor apologized for it, nor stated it was wrong? There must have been some better candidate available from all the millions of Catholics. I see how much peace Rat Zinger has brought us so far. What a soothing effect he has had so far. Good thing we have him. You know, we have a Dali Lama too, somewhere in the world, in prison in China I think, and yet, the Dali Lama has never interfered with American politics, nor caused any irritable conversation on DU. This is not just a slap in the face of Catholics, who will now be expected to allow Rat Zinger to dictate his ultra ridged unforgiving morality to them, but also a slap to Jews, to whom he has made no statement of apology or sorrow for their suffering at the hands of the Nazi's he assisted. And not just the Jews, either, Hitler tried to eradicate Gypsies too, who, by the way, are my people. He also tried to eradicate gays. Did any of us need this? Did we need a pope who is not only a former Nazi gunner but also protects pedophiles to the best of his ability, even asking Condi Rice, the very day after becoming Pope, to arrange the dismissal of lawsuits from all those pesky little alter boys in America? How about a pope who told his congregations they'd be sinning if they didn't vote for the fascist dictator who was currently oppressing them? Sounds like he still has allegiances with tyrants. It'd be one cold day in Washington before I could think of a man like this as spiritually advanced. He's a Nazi, need I say more?

quite the lifelong hobby with Ratzinger. If it were less tragic, the irony of gays being in a sense in a majority group here might almost be funny. It isn't just gays. For example, he has disciplined priests in Asia for daring to suggest that maybe the other religious paths of that area might also be part of god's plan. The list of his doctrinal thunderbolts is long. which is only fitting for a 2-decade-plus head of the renamed Inquisition. Some of these are featured on the web site of that organization, though most are in Latin. But some are in English - for example this thundering condemnation of that horrible, immoral, evil group, the Masons:



I was raised a Catholic, but I walked away from it decades ago because I finally realized that I could never accept the things I was ordered to believe. "You don't have to understand," I was assured, "it's faith - you just have to believe." My certainty in the rightness of my decision has never wavered. Homosexuality in humans, as in animals, is a phenomenon of nature and is certainly not morally evil. The treatment of homosexual humans by the church IS. (And no, I am not gay myself. But I am a human being with a normal amount of empathy for other human beings.)

I just want to know the quanity of DU catholics who are willing to admit they think I'm evil.

And I do think it's important for people who consider themselves progressive Democrats and yet concur with Ratzinger's views on homosexuality to think about this very carefully. Whatever they have been told, a person's beliefs are their CHOICES. Condemning another human being as "morally evil" only because someone orders them to, without any other knowledge or logic to back it up, is bigotry. Jesus wasn't a big fan of that.

Not just DU catholics.

Hard to believe that on a leftie forum there are people choosing the first option!

Good poll, by the way!

love your little black box, btw. :-) can I copy it?