Clinton impeachment was retaliation for Nixon, says retiring congessman

Clinton impeachment was retaliation for Nixon, says retiring congessman

By Andy Shaw

April 21, 2005 — Republican Congressman Henry Hyde made some surprising comments Thursday on the impeachment hearings of President Bill Clinton. He now says Republicans may have gone after Clinton to retaliate for the impeachment of Richard Nixon. Hyde is stepping down after this term.
Hyde's comments came as he talked with ABC7 political reporter Andy Shaw about his 30 year in Congress.

In an exclusive interview, Hyde delivered a big dose of candor and some reflective second guessing. He said, among other things, he might not try to impeach President Clinton if he had it to do all over again.

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he would do it over again. Not that he'll have a chance to prove it anyway, so he can say whatever he wants.

:puke:

He resigned when it appeared inevitable.

I think the 'pukes were mad because Clinton didn't.

Looks like someone doesn't know their history. Either they do or it's an excuse for the public. I'd go with the excuse. They did it because he wasn't one of them and they could. Watch "The Hunting of the President" if you haven't seen it already. It's pretty clear why they did it and it wasn't cause of fucking Nixon.

They'd have done it had Nixon never happened. Those people were possessed.

Impeachment was inevitable.

... the House Judiciary Committee in July ...

On Saturday, July 27, the House Judiciary Committee approved its first article of impeachment charging President Nixon with obstruction of justice. Six of the Committee's 17 Republicans joined all 21 Democrats in voting for the article. The following Monday the Committee approved its second article charging Nixon with abuse of power. The next day, the third and final article, contempt of Congress, was approved.

Articles of Impeachment were never voted on by the whole House of Representatives, however.

On Friday, August 9, Nixon resigned the presidency and avoided the likely prospect of losing the impeachment vote in the full House and a subsequent trial in the Senate. He thus became the only U.S. President ever to resign. Vice President Gerald R. Ford succeeded him and a month later granted Nixon a full pardon for any crimes he might have committed while President.

As we should vividly remember, "impeachment" is defined as the passage by the House of Representatives (not just a committee) of Articles of Impeachment. Then, the Senate tries the case, with the Chief Justice presiding.


See http://www.historyplace.com/unitedstates/impeachments/nixon.htm

blew on trying to figure out how many blow-jobs there may or MAY NOT have been. Thanks for that, Ken. You stay out of my city from now on, you Puritanical hypocrite!

once in control: they have never liked this Republic, its Constitution IMHO.

What a creep. He should have done the right thing when it mattered. I hope he gets a long lingering illness to enjoy his retirement with.

It was UN FREAKING BELIEVABLE to me that they even attempted it! That they succeeded, well, I knew there was trouble brewing when the actually managed to let it get as far as it did! The thing that absolutely FLOORS me now is that THIS administration and THIS president are a thousand times worse than Nixon and VERY few Americans are screaming "IMPEACH THE BASTARDS" from their personal mountaintops!

That's the game and we should be playing it. I'd like to see 20 years from now Democrats lying, sleazing and mauling Republicans for what they did to Clinton and Gore and what they've been doing since BushCo stole and assaulted this country.

Democrats should never forget this time in history, and not only not forget, but take vengeance for it for all living memory.

All aside from the fact that Nixon behaved like a crook, while Clinton did absolutely nothing wrong. As far as I'm concerned, that gives Dems license to do far worse than Repubs have been doing.

I'm looking forward to many years of retribution. Payback is a bitch and I can't wait for it to start.

There is so much out there that is true that is impeachable with Bush - we just need a Democratic Congress to launch investigations into it.

Asshole.

And why are his comments "surprising"? This was known all along. :grr:

Edit to add to the fossil record:

and not trying to bankrupt the USA and force a 'flat tax' revolution like the Repukes are doing today. Clinton, though as political as many politicians, was idealistic and wanted better lives for all Americans, not just a bigger piece of the pie for the rich.

They hated him for that because he stopped the tax rollbacks for the rich and didn't bankrupt the social programs. He tried to fix a few.

Imagine living in a country where the elites are so furious at not being in power every single day .. that they go insane and try to destroy good leadership.

Good for him for telling the truth about that.

It's not because of Nixon. All because of Clinton's policies and he wasn't Bush. Clinton gave people jobs and helped people with finances and of course they couldn't have that. :mad:

to the highest bidders. He caused an 8 year setback in their plans to deconstruct the republic. He made them wait to finish off the working people and the environment.

And he fucking loved every minute of it. That's one more reason they hate him. The Big Dawg loves life and life loves him back.

I will consider any American who is a Republican, votes for a republican or defends republicans to be a traitor and a criminal.

this admission makes plain that repukes are immoral and have no respect fo law, decency, the Constitution or the American people.

I thought everyone knew that was the bottom line in going after Clinton.

Is this something Republicans can be proud of?



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The Pukes have never gotten over the fact that "Tricky Dick" was forced to resign.They learned their lessons in 1972-1974 very well though and the American people and many others around the world are paying for it right now.

It makes me want to :puke: though that the ultimate hypocrite, Henry "Youthful Indiscretion" Hyde has the balls to say this now that he is "retiring". The only reason he's giving up the ghost is that he knows that he would probably lose in next year's Congressional election.

I hope God can forgive this hypocrite for all the harm he's done, I can't.

though is Nixon never got impeached. So that whole story is just bullshit I think.

... paid hush money out of illegal slush funds, lied to Congress about bombing Cambodia. (I'm probably leaving shit out.)

Clinton lied about bad oral sex. (there's three words I thought I'd never put together.)

That's about equal, isn't it? Shit!

Should have burned that fucking Reagan on Iran-Contra... burned him to the ground. I'll never forgive Tim O'neall for giving that asshole a pass... even if he did think it was for the good of the country.

La De Dah. If he had the choice he shouldn't have done it in the first place! There was no reason for it. He did nothing illegal and those sick freaks went after him for nothing and spent thousands of dollars. Nixon was a criminal fool.

could he possibly be thinking about what he might tell st. peter when his time comes to enter the kingdom of heaven with probably a lot less fanfare than JP II had?

:sarcasm:

At the time of the impeachment I worked for an extremely conservative boss, and he was just beside himself that Clinton didn't step down. For that guy it was all about Nixon. He actually said to me once: "You got one of our guys, now we got one of yours ... why doesn't he do the honorable thing and step down like Nixon." That guy was quite amusing.

During the radio broadcast of the senate vote, I stood in the middle of the work area and tallied the votes in marker on a big piece of cardboard, giving live updates and play-by-play to anyone within earshot. right-wing lunatic boss didn't like that. Quite fun :evilgrin:

His wobbly butt was after Clinton too and right in the middle of it.

I forget..... a couple of illegitimate kids or was a couple of mistresses....there were so many...i think 45 repuke congress critters had their little 'arrangments' outed.

moral coffin, but it won't. The Repukes could even come out and say they paid Monica to have her trist with Clinton and it would make no difference. Evil does not admit to being evil.

Very even handed of them

Which occurs to me is basically a case of coworker abuse in the workplace.

1: Nixon broke into the Democratic Party HQ, stole records for a NYT reporter, and tried to cover it all up. Clinton got a blowjob from an intern.

2: It was 25 years ago. Different congress, different times. It would be like the Democrats deliberately stealing an election in revenge for the 1876 election.

the Booshvoters have never forgiven dan for helping to bring down their first crooked god

very beginning of the whole ridiculous circus. Repubs never did see Nixon for what he was and put the blame squarely where it belonged, on NIXON and not the Dems who had the courage to do the right thing and expose him for what he was and attempt to remove him from the office he had so horribly abused, misused, and disgraced. And thank God they did, too; Nixon was a mad-with-power fascist, imagine what would have happened if the cowardly fuck hadn't gotten wise and resigned.

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I'm so glad this SOB is retiring. Mr., youthful indiscretion, cheatin' on his wife, hypocritical BASTARD!

Those assholes were digging up everything they could on Clinton the minute they learned he was running against Daddy Bush. The BFEE went to work IMMEDIATELY. There was no doubt it was all for revenge and now we actually have them ADMITTING it.

Good riddance you piece of shit!

that wouldn't resign, but instead stood up and stared into the face of the hypocritical political smear mongers who tried and failed to undermine democracy.

It was about undoing the results of 2 national elections. Because they had the White House for so long, Republicans because to belive the White House was "theirs;" that they would have some permanent lock on it.

Clinton did the unthinkable---he WON! Imagine that! And they never forgave him for winning---twice! So they wanted to undo the results of those 2 national elections.

"to undo the results of 2 national elections" ...
I'd say ... OK, I see that ...


I would say they killed the Kennedys and MLK ...

they Watergated us in '72 ...

over a couple of elections (c. '66-'76), they anti-labored Senators Ross Bass (TN), David Brewster (MD), Thomas Dodd (CT), Al Gore Sr. (TN), Ralph Yarborough (TX), Frank Moss (UT), Gale McGee (WY), and Vance Hartke (IN) ...

they negatively did-in Senators Gaylord Nelson (WI), George McGovern (SK), Frank Church (ID), Birch Bayh, 'SR.'(IN), Warren Magnuson (WA)(first time the GOP gained control of the Senate since 1952)

and 'October Surprised' Carter in 1980 ...

they couped 2000, 2002, 2004 ...

they've taken over the 4th Estate;

and, now, they are dismantling the New Deal ... and are destroying our
standard of living and Constitution ...


... so, if Clinton was 'revenge' for Nixon ...

when does it stop?


Is Nixon revenge what Richard Mellon Scaife was after when he was kick-starting and financing the Clinton hunt?

I don't think so, Mr. Hyde.

for having business taken from them by FDR for trading with the enemy ...

they never got over that, and are Carlyle-ing their way back in revenge without care of what or who they abuse and destroy in their wake ... they'd form pacts and alliances with Satan if they needed ... kinda explains junior's** issues and attitudes with the New Deal whilst in university ... dinner time gossip must have been interesting ... and, of course, he has no problem helping to dismantle all the progess we've made ... the BFEE is vindictive ...

Poppy probably loved seeing Nixon go down ... he wasn't 'planted' in the CIA for nothing ... I think he was likely just as big of a loser as Junior ... in contrast to the Kennedy clan ... and, then, that dang Ray-gun broke in line in front of his goal ... have the power to make the deals on the taxpayer dime ...

same smell.

Both Colin Powell and Henry Hyde are perfect examples of political cowardice.

They did not speak truth to power when they had the opportunity to.

And I still can't get over Henry Hyde calling an extramarital affair that occured in his 40's, a "youthful indiscretion."

Wait a minute! I thought it was about "the lying."

... we're going to impeach Bush** as retaliation for your impeachment of Clinton. How do you like that, maggot?

... we're going to impeach Bush** as retaliation for your impeachment of Clinton. How do you like that, maggot?

they fuck with Carter too?

We've only known that since what? 1992?

Wasn't their only reason, but it was one of the things that glued the attack-fest together.

Nixon was never impeached.

The HJC voted on 4 and passed 3 articles of impeachment. Nixon resigned in disgrace before the Senate started his trial.

Idjut reporter and editor.

And a word on the reporter's usage of the English language: "He said, among other things, he might not try to impeach President Clinton if he had it to do all over again." Perhaps "he may not have tried" or "he would not have tried", but it certainly is not appropriate to use the present tense "might not try". Duh!

that the process for Tricky Dick had just begun. However, during the Clinton ordeal, it was known that many of the republicans were sticking it to the president in some confused form of revenge. What was the most confusing part was that it was not democrats who took Nixon out: the extreme right wing of the republicans were the moving force behind knee-capping Nixon, and the moderate republicans refused to support him once the extent of his criminal acyivities began to become know. The democrats lacked the ability to take Nixon out.

five articles upon which the Judiciary Committee voted.

http://www.msnbc.com/modules/clintonbrief/brief_part3.asp?cp1=1

Man bites Dog

Bush masters Polysyllabics

and in other news not worth believing.....

Reagan's handover of arms to Iran and running drugs out of South America to finance the weapons purchase made Watergate look like a school discipline problem as compared to a felony deserving of capital punishment. And Teflon Ron skated.

They ran Carter out of Washington tarred and feathered, and illegally and treasonously negotiated with Iran to stop the hostages from being released prior to the election.

And then they got revenge by installing 2 Bushes who should have been in jail for treason or public drunkenness.

And then they attacked Clinton because they were still hyped up on needing revenge?

This is a beast that will not go quietly into the night, its appetite is endless.

where the sun don't shine. Your singleminded hypocrisy did more to hurt this country than any attack by a foreign power and may have contributed to our inability to anticipate the 9-11 attack. I really mean that.

when the proverbial sheet hits the proverbial fan.

Damn tabbed browsing!

Laying down over Iran-Contra evened the score on the Nixon impeachment. The Clinton impeachment was a desperate attempt to drag down a politically savvy and charismatic liberal leader.