we need to find progressive fundamentalist preachers

who can speak to rural folks in their language the way the preachers in the early 20th century did when the Progressive Movement first started.

I agree that progressives need to reach out to rural people, for they are the descendants of the populist progressive farm/labor coalition I think you are referring to.

Being brainwashed by the evangelical cult and thinking Bush was sent by God to be president, it'll be a change to reach them. IF a fundie minister existed, they should speak out against the other fundies.

That was my exact response.

My mother is a fundamentalist -- and perhaps as close to a progressive -- but she is still miles away from being a true progressive. She would have to take off her fundamentalist glasses and take a look at the real world. She is far too brainwashed to do this.

Fundamentalism (whatever the religion) is a CULT.

The Seventh Day Adventist believe in the separation of church and state and don't join with the right wing nuts in attacking the judiciary. However the vast majority are still highly conservative and the vast majority still vote straight ticket GOP.

I am beginning to believe that fundamentalism religiosity is a temperament trait, that is most often learned but there are some people that will seek a leader/mentor who is an extreme fundamentalist -- they are followers/believers and are unable to think on their own.

For a person to get to the preacher stage -- any progressive tendencies in the preacher candidate are eliminated. The intelligent ones who see the light and leave are no longer fundamentalists (of any religious cult).

The preacher trip in a fundamentalist cult is a real power trip -- and few males would be willing to give up that sort of power.

n/t

Opposed.

have to tell you my reaction in reading your subject line. first i read and sat. then i re read and laughed. ya right. contradicitive. in all the fundamentalists i have met, i have no met a single progressive. but thank you for the thought. the black southern baptist, were progressive i believe. i have been wanting to hit some black churches to see if they are different from the white fundamentalist. just not a church goer.

so maybe. i will have to ask around, see if i hear of any fundamentalist progressives.

still i enjoyed my reaction to your two words, was funny

We need a Progressive Movement That speaks to everybody in language they understand. Rural voters aren't all slack-jawed-yokels or fundies. And even those that are, will respond to simple, populist, common sense progressive ideas. Part of our Nation's problem is mixing up the church pulpit a political soapbox. We should avoid that path.

and they are organizing to counter
the anti-Christian message that
Falwell et al use to raise money,
gain political power.

Just because one believes in the teachings,
the activism and courage of Jesus, doesn't mean
one is conservative. Don't let the rightwingnuts
take our faith like they've tried to take
everything else that's good in this country.

They don't own faith and God knows
they don't practice what Jesus lived and
preached.

people like Jimmy Carter?

I happen to go to what's known
as a progressive Christian church...
pro-choice, pro civil rights and
blessings for same sex partners,
on the side of Jesus when it comes
to most issues.

The unfortunate thing is although
I would guess there are more who
are walking the path with Jesus,
we don't have the bullhorn and
certainly aren't bullying from the
pulpits.

be assured, despite media coverage,
we're here and working towards a just
world.

But I already do that with the City Folks.

And I say this as someone who spent most of my formative years attending an independent, fundamentalist baptist church (and have the recurring panic attacks about the Rapture to prove it).

He was one of Clinton's "spiritual advisers."

http://www.pbs.org/wnet/religionandethics/week734/interview.html

http://www.beliefnet.com/story/150/story_15052_1.html

http://www.tonycampolo.org/about_tony.shtml


Of course he's being slammed by the Christian RW.

http://www.letusreason.org/Popteac27.htm