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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 07:09 AM
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Why are people more afraid of the 'Gay Agenda' than they are...
Edited on Thu Apr-28-05 07:09 AM by ck4829
of the Dominionist Agenda?

It seems to me that the 'Gay Agenda' we all hear so much about is the justified search for equality.

The Dominionist Agenda on the other hand is a quest to turn America into a Theocratic Dictatorship.

Why are people more scared of the first when they should be totally frightened by the second?
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 07:31 AM
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1. Because the fear their may be some of in them.
It is like this crazy hand holding thing. Every Texan in Saudi when I was there thought it meant the Saudi es were gay. It was just something they all do.Now just what these Texan think about Bush is interesting.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 08:03 AM
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3. You should have heard Trump on Imus going on about that
kissing and handholding. He was livid. McCain came on, and gave more of the same...he framed it slightly differently, talking in environmental and conservation terms, but he exhibited the same degree of disgust.

The one issue that seems to cut across party lines is the environment. It can't be swept under the rug anymore. Too many kids and adults are getting sick from pollution, and the only idiots who haven't woken up to these dangers are the corporate pigs behind the GOP scenes.
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 07:50 AM
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2. There isn't any connection beyond
a politically incompetent pursuit of the first is giving political advantage of the latter.

Just my opinion.
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 08:14 AM
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5. Indeed, the only connection seen is:
The backlash against the 'Gay' agenda (whatever that is) is manifested by a circling of the wagons in protection from the 'savages'.



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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 08:08 AM
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4. Conditioning since childhood in most cases, I think.
Conditioning of the concepts of good and evil are so instilled into children growing up who have been exposed to stories of plagues, incest, rape, mass murder, and murder of the main character specifically are scared into believing the theocracy is good. Now, with the extremist version of Islam as a national threat, adults who could normally see through the transparent blame game on gay people are scared into believing the islam terrorist thing is more serious than our own domestic terrorists. It's a sad day in America. To me, they are equally serious threats. And in some cases, I'd say the Crhristian Identity version the extreme right wing espouses is more dangerous. Anything that seems innocuous yet has the power of "leader of the free world" at their beckoning call is super scary to me. The "foreign" extremists are easily labeled terrorists. It's hard to get people to realize that the insane mutterings of the religious right inside the country are a threat.
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Az Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 08:25 AM
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6. Because they believe the fabric of society is at risk
We live in a complex world. We come to understand the rules operating in our world as we grow up. It takes a long time to learn them.

Progressive attitudes and modern society tend to foster change in moral attitudes. We are constantly discovering aspects of our nature and justice that cause us to rexamine truths we once held. Once we realise that the truth was not so true we set about correcting this in our society. We change the rules and disrupt the status quo.

As things progress the more obvious failings of society fall first. Womens rights, racism, child labor issues. These things are clear for many to see. But even so they disrupt the balance of society. And each time change occurs stress is felt throughout society.

Remember society has evolved up to the point these discoveries are made with the unjust position being part of the system. For many the system worked and changing things can destabalize what took centuries to develop. Its like pulling on a loose thread in a tapestry. You don't know what its going to unravel.

As the issues being righted by progressive forces become less and less relevant to the common person the necessity of them becomes less and less clear. The constant presense of the threat of unraveling society remains a pressure on the process and stress continues to accrue from past advances as well.

Sooner or later a cause comes along that doesn't reach enough people. The stress built up will not allow another advance to be forced through. And the fear that the fabric of society is about to come undone causes a backlash agaist the progressive aspects of society.
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DFLer4edu Donating Member (675 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 08:30 AM
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7. Because gays will get equal rights
Edited on Thu Apr-28-05 08:56 AM by DFLer4edu
whereas the US will never become a Theocratic Dictatorship. So those scared of or uncomfortable with gays are going to oppose the gay rights movement because they know gay's will eventually get the right to marriage whereas I could care less whether a few fundies want a Theocratic Dictatorship, it isn't mainstream. It is never going to happen.
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