NY Catholic College not "Catholic" anymore after Hillary speech

Yep, anybody speaking whose background is not pure "pro-life" can get a Catholic school to be shunned by the local Diocese and not be considered "Catholic" anymore.

This idological purity is pretty low and very petty. The Cardnial Newman Society uses a strict interpetation of Catholic Dogma laws (research the Ex Corde Ecclesiase for more).

http://www.cwnews.com/news/viewstory.cfm?recnum=36858

"New York, Apr. 29 (CWNews.com) - The Archdiocese of New York has formally removed the designation of a local college as being a Catholic institution after a Catholic higher education group protested plans by Marymount Manhattan College to have New York Sen. Hillary Clinton as commencement speaker.

The Cardinal Newman Society said the archdiocese will no longer have the college listed in The Official Catholic Directory , an authoritative list of Catholic institutions. The group said college officials agreed with the action taken on Thursday and, in fact, claimed that the college has not been Catholic since 1961, when it separated from its parent institution, Marymount College of Tarrytown, and its founding religious order, the Religious of the Sacred Heart of Mary.

Many Catholic institutions incorporated themselves to remove their Catholic designation in 1961 in order to receive state government funding. Nevertheless, the college had continued to be listed in the Catholic directory, which some Catholic philanthropies use to determine if an institution will receive their grants.

In 2003, following a similar protest by the Cardinal Newman Society, Cardinal Edward Egan declared Marist College in Poughkeepsie "no longer Catholic" after the pro-abortion New York Attorney General Eliot Spitzer was invited to give the commencement address. Clinton is noted as one of the most stridently pro-abortion members of Congress and is often listed as a leading contender to be the Democratic presidential candidate in 2008. "

Other schools that were removed from an earlier article from CWN are Nazareth College and St John Fisher College, both in Rochester, NY.

Edit: Here are the comments from the board posters from the similar, but removed article:
http://www.cwnews.com/news/viewstory.cfm?recnum=36849

The group said college officials agreed with the action taken on Thursday and, in fact, claimed that the college has not been Catholic since 1961, when it separated from its parent institution, Marymount College of Tarrytown, and its founding religious order, the Religious of the Sacred Heart of Mary.

The dogmatic authoritarians are only bleeding themselves dry. They should keep up the good work.

:D

People accused of *bashing* have been repeatedly told that many parishes and institutions have radically divergent viewpoints, yet are still permitted to be called 'Catholic.' :shrug:

I haven't considered myself Catholic for a very long time. I suppose that was true for a while after Vatican II, when the "ecumenical" view was prominent. However, the radically conservative, authoritarian view seems to have made a roaring comeback.

On edit: Spelling.

But most of the middle and upper hierarchy are more and more controlled by the more ultra-traditionalist side of the Church.

This announcement in the way it was sent out was ment to be a warning to other Catholic colleges and Universities to toe the line or watch out.

The ultra-traditionalist want all schools to teach only the hard line and be like these schools:
http://www.ncregister.com/features/mandatum.htm

This list is of course the minority of Catholic Colleges and Unviersities nationwide, but the push from that side seems to be all or nothing. There is no wiggle room or academic freedom in their eyes.

They are showing that the Cardnial Newman Society will crack down on any school who remotely breaks the dogmatic laws of the church.

what does this mean?

"Many Catholic institutions incorporated themselves to remove their Catholic designation in 1961 in order to receive state government funding.

And were able to receive funding as an educational institution in exchange.

It probably came around during the start of the Vatican II years to help grow the schools by opening them up to pretty much anyone who makes the grades.

The schools I linked to above still do this, but have a seperate agreement with the local Bishop that they will follow everything he says and not have completly open academic freedom to discuss any issue in any way.

Many felt they would get more money or educational liberty from the state than the church. Remember the earth is flat and square just like the map! The RCC is infamous for thier science. Always have been and always will be.

The catholic church is supposed to be the church of all people, unversal
without shooing people away for what they believe, or for their
schools or cleargy speaking truth.... rather this church is far far
from its name ... the "church against jesus christ; the church of the
fallen angels"

Catholic does indeed come from the greek word 'katholou', or Universal, but it wasn't intended to mean what you're saying. The "Universal Church" was intended to convey the unity of faith present in the church, an important statement at a time when different Christian churches in different areas had markedly different views of Christianity (this was before the Catholic Church purged the 'heretical' churches). At the beginning of Christianity churches didn't have names like "Catholic", "Baptist", "Gnostic", or "Donanist", they simply all labelled themselves as "Christian", making it difficult for people to tell one faith from another. Early Catholics called themselves the "Universal Church" simply to set themselves apart and to reassure converts that all of their churches taught the same liturgy, no matter where they were located on the planet.

I heard that somewhere, and i 'knew' that putting it out there would
get a finer truth. I've met catholics in computer science that
sincerely believed that computer technology offered a new
manifestation of god's voice that was indeed universal, and they had
named their company after this, and were selling a universal
inter-system middleware.

I really liked the idea of universal, as these chaps and their company
were really globalist good hearted catholics; great hearted ones. They
believed that the original intent of the church was to be universal the
world over for all persons, not as a church of ideology, but as one of
love. I really thought it was romantic. :-)

In a mideaval world of little feudal kingdomes, i can see how the
universality that you mention, would act as a civilizing influence,
as perhaps it was the first serious organization to cross borders to
such a great degree beyond cultures... and in a way, much more universal
at the outset than today. Without the "universal" label, of course
there would be a tendency to see each church as a separate body.

Opus-Dei religion must be accepted and prevail, all other doctrines are false. That is, if there was any consistancy to this craziness in the churches.