Military recruiting center attacked

By John Aguilar, the Rocky Mountain News
April 29, 2005

WESTMINSTER - An Army and Marines recruitment center was shot at eight times this morning, an incident police believe is related to the airing of a television news report Thursday night that raised questions about recruitment practices.
No one was injured in the shooting, which shattered some glass at the front of the building at 7355 W. 88th Ave.

CBS 4 News' report focused on an Arvada West High School honors student who wanted to see how recruiters would react if he told them he wanted to join the Army but was hooked on pot and didn't have a high school diploma.

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Smart experiment by this kid and it showed just how desperate our millitary is getting in their recruiting methods. What's next emptying out our prisons?

this type of action...anytime, anywhere.

In a roundabout way it's defense of a third party. These slime bag recruiters (and I've know a few) won't bat an eye before sending your child to die in an illegal and immoral war. But you already knew that.

It might be effective too! Recruiters are cowards.
On edit: If Americans insist on threatening and intimidating doctors and judges what protection do piss ant recruiters deserve?

Edit again: Oh yea, And college professors too, Seems to be quite a rash of death threats in academia as well.

It only creates a cycle of violence. That said, shooting an empty building trying to manipulate children to commit illegal acts so that they can be forced into military action...well, that I am also against simply because of the rule of law. But, consider that the US government at large now is above the rule of law, making laws they are not following, while committing crimes against their citizens. The courts are being stacked against the rule of law. The FBI is busy investigating Paris Hilton's missing phone and the SS is busy kicking tax-payers out of public hearings.

I asked this as a philosophical question several times and for a while now: if the rule of law does not apply to the lawmakers, then what are the options?

I do not support violence or guns, but boy, some spray paint with a good msg on it would come in handy. Anyway, it does not matter if you shoot a building or spray paint it anymore. Under Patriot Act/Real ID Act there are no degrees of criminality, only degrees of government description on who is a "criminal" or not.

I believe so. That means more wasted dollars.

Much more preferable to stick signs in the ground around the building or taped to the windows, or write letters to the editor. Vandalism creates negative attention on the behavior of those who are causing property damage. Much better to focus on the behavior of the recruiters.

It's not. New rules now, anything goes. Their choice, not ours.

the lying to the recruiters or damaging the building?

I don't support the recruiters either!

During WWII they 'released' prisoners to military service. I've been curious to see if they renew this practice.

to avoid inflaming the public because as we all know America doesn't give two shits what happens to someone once they become a part of our prison system.

They have been doing it for years. I remember a time in the 80's when the recruiters swept thru the Maricopa county jail openly offering amnesty to those onn the other side of the bars. Mostly they took DUI's, possesions and simple assault guys.

No trial, no judge, no arraingment, just "come with us & the charges will be dropped. No Shit, saw it with my own eyes. It's always been a fall back in times of unmet recruiting goals.

I hate those fuckers.

The shadow of things to come as people find themselves
on the gradual slide down the economic slope and the American
dream fades into the American Nightmare.

Personally, I wouldn't be surprised if the person who shot
up the recruiting station had a child killed in the Iraq FUBAR war
and has recently lost their job on top of losing their kid.

As Leonard Cohen sang in his prophetic song-
"I have seen the future, and it's murder..."

BHN

so we don't have to fight them here? BAcklash! Ouch!

You know, it's nice that you want to take action. But take this advice: shooting up an Army recruitment center is going to convince no one and make a whole bunch of folks who *know* what they're doing with guns get pissed at *you*. And thanks for tarring the anti-war movement along the way!

As for the student: loved it, loved it. Good for him.

In Iraq and here in America.

I'm sorry shooting is NOT peaceful and will accomplish NOTHING but fear and hatred of the people that would do such a thing! To "protest" a war by shooting up a recruitment site is over the top and STUPID.

This was more than likely kids. Their parents ought to have raised them better! Believe me, in the state where the Columbine school shootings occurred THIS incident is going to piss a whole lot of people off!

I am angry too, but I can accomplish the very SAME goal by holding a sign out front! In fact, my message will likely be far MORE powerful than some unseen bullet holes.

Now we are likely going to have a witch hunt for some misguided teenagers and a public airwaves "media execution" of them! Why do people in America resort to violent behavior to solve VIOLENCE?

Peaceful protest has gotten us no where. In the 60's protest turned violent when it became obvious that no one was listening. When things got violent, the press paid attention. That's just the way it was.

People ACTUALLY believe the protests back then ACTUALLY fixed the system! It DID NOT fix a damn thing. The "establishment" just learned a HUGE lesson in how to hide their goals from the public! Do some research. THE SAME PEOPLE IN CONTROL THEN ARE STILL IN CONTROL!

All we accomplished back then was to get them to further into hiding. As for violence...well there does come a point, I agree with you, but EXPOSURE has to be the beginning of any real needed reform.

There is a whole lot of information that is not known by even those of us who have dug as deep as we are capable of digging. The military issue is a part of a MUCH larger problem. Until we get to the bottom of THAT issue we can ONLY spread the word to our fellow citizens to AVOID recruitment and give them valid reasons why. A few unseen bullet holes doesn't get the message across to potential recruits. Banners and protests do.

is unwarrented.

So is shooting up your own establishment in an attempt to divert attention from the real story. Not that I am saying that this is what happened...just stating an alternate explanation from the viewpoint of someone who has seen too much manipulation of the public through "diversionary" tactics.

What these recruiters did was absolutely disgusting, but it does not warrant an equally disgusting response as was the case with the shooting. Protesting would have been more apt, not violence. Somebody could have gotten killed.

there are plenty of hardcore RW government-haters out there, and this is more their style IMO.

You know the "libruls" are to blame for everything-
Everything that is, except for what the Clinton penis did!
If the penis did not do it, the "libruls" did!
LOL
BHN

Clinton's penis could fire bullets, but one can never underestimate the Clenis can one? :-) :hi:

control insurgents, bankrupt a country and control the price of gasoline!
That is SOME Clenis!
BHN

I wondered, even before clicking it, whether this was a form of "wag the dog," perpetrated by someone looking to stir up the "support the troops" rabble.