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emad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-05 10:14 AM
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Ivy League colleges lead boom in student-run porn magazines

By Jaclyn Trop
01 May 2005


Porn magazines produced by and for students are proliferating on American campuses, shattering the common perception that universities in the US are bastions of political correctness.

From Harvard to Yale, the University of Chicago to the University of New Hampshire, some of the nation's most august institutions of learning are home to sexually explicit periodicals - and in most cases the editors are female.

At least 10 American universities now have their own student-run erotic magazines, featuring sex advice, fiction and nude photo-spreads of ordinary students.

Dozens more host campus sponsored "sex events", such as naked parties at Yale, something called the Condom Olympics, part of "sex week" at Tufts University, and National Outdoor Intercourse Day at Western Washington University, which teaches students about the legal repercussions of having sex outdoors.

http://news.independent.co.uk/world/americas/story.jsp?story=634664
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wheresthemind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-05 10:19 AM
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1. Too late to transfer to Yale?
Damn Ivy Leaguers get everything I guess...
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Yavin4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-05 10:20 AM
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2. This Is A Reflection of The Fact That Elite Universities Attract Mostly
students from very wealthy families who are going to these schools primarily for the social aspect rather than academics. The tuition for these schools are off limits to most middle income and working class Americans.

In the 1960s and 1970s, universities and colleges were open to most Americans, regardless of their families' income. Students from working class and middle class backgrounds went to these schools and learned how to change the world for the better. Today, these schools have become nothing more than a day care center for the children of the wealthy elite.
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MAlibdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-05 10:42 AM
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6. not true
it's not the tuition that's off limits - most of these school guaruntee to meet the student's financial need with loans and grants and most (including the entire ancient eight) don't look at need in determining admission. However, to be able to be admitted requires a pretty damn good secondary education, which makes it off limits to a lot of people.

But that sure as hell doesn't mean that i don't have friends here (at dartmouth) from working class or poor backgrounds.

and to suggest that because many people at these schools are priveleged means that they lack a social conscious is absurd. 80% or more of my school is moderate or left-leaning, and others schools are more so.

I'll refer you to http://www.genocideinterventionfund.org for an example of swarthmore students who have a consciousness about the world. They set up a non-profit to channel funds to the AU peacekeepers in Darfur. Many schools have chapters such as our Dartmouth Action Group that are working to raise awareness about the genocide and funds for the GIF to support the AU. Additionally, many schools, at the insistence of students, are looking into divestment from Sudan.

Sexual liberation, I think, is not a wholly bad thing. Certainly there is sex, alcohol, and drugs on college campuses. But in my experience, it creates a level playing field for men and women to interact as equals in a crazy game of getting laid.

The fact that the children of students of the 60s and 70s from the working and middle class backgrounds now go to the same schools doesn't mean that the values our parents fought for haven't been instilled in us.

Excuse me now, I have to go organize a lit drop for Darfur at parent's weekend to rake in a lot of money for African Union peacekeepers so that people don't die in Darfur. What have you done today?
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Catt03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-05 11:27 AM
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13. delete
Edited on Sun May-01-05 11:28 AM by Catt03
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-05 11:14 AM
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12. They ARE offlimits to most families, regardless of what some say!
Financial offices really don't guarantee that anyone can go. Loans? Yeah.. most families can't saddle themselves with the loans. Ivy league schools are not full of low to mid income kids, hell.. even the STate schools here are offlimits to low/middle income kids. FAFSA is only a piece of paper, and your family has to have good credit to get school loans.

I lived in enuff college towns to know that the primary activity is actually drinking, screwing, and shopping. I'm glad that there are some students making a difference out there and moving on to better things. As one student I know put it so well.. it's high school with ash trays.
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NNguyenMD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-05 01:51 PM
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16. community colleges provide a more affordable alternative for those who
can't afford attending an expensive private or state university for the entire 4 years.

The UC system has an excellent relationship with the community colleges of California, where a significant number of entering students are older students transfering in with credit from their community colleges.

I know plenty of students who go from JC to University to Graduate school with minimal financial burdens along the way.

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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-05 10:21 AM
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3. There are some women who will regret doing this once they grow up.
Too bad they can't channel their energies into something important.
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barbaraann Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-05 10:23 AM
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4. Outdoor sex in Bellingham?
I suppose if squirming around on mushrooms, moss and mildew in the pouring down rain under really gloomy skies is your idea of good sex, then Bellingham is the ticket!

(I think Bellingham is a great place to live but I wouldn't want to have outdoor sex there.)
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-05 10:39 AM
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5. "shattering the common perception that universities in the US
are bastions of political correctness." Humm, I guess these writers
have never attended college or spring break to make such a stupid
assertion.
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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-05 10:55 AM
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7. porno doesn't have any redeeming qualities


guess the students will graduate with degrees in fucking, shopping, and religion.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-05 04:51 PM
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19. How about making a new genre of "Political Porn"?
Anyone want to make a movie about wild sex at an anti-gay fundamentalist convention?

Call it, "Focus on the Fucking Does Kansas?"

James: This gay porn is disgusting.
Fred: Yes, it is. They're all going to Hell. God hates fags!
James: It's terrible. I've been looking at this filth for hours.
Fred: You like tense, James. How about a massage?

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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-05 10:57 AM
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8. When I was a teenager I hung out with college students, we were horny
ya know. We did group things including orgies. It helped make being a musician tolerable, some of these folks founded underground newspapers-which were targeted by COINTELPRO and/or Operation CHAOS in the illegal domestic operations against dissent in America.

Of course these facts are ridiculed as "wacky conspiracy theories" today and the chroniclers of that dark hidden history personally attacked.

I'm glad today's students are upfront about their sexuality and I'm proud of my generation's (boomers) part in the fight to have the right to publish this.

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Joey Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-05 11:00 AM
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9. I need to go back to collge!
Hell yeah!!!!!!!:)............
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Joey Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-05 11:03 AM
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10. Obviously!
Hey, I can't spell, but at least I had better grades than Bunnypants Bush!
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-05 11:09 AM
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11. Ah.. further perpetuating a hostile environment for most women.
Great.. all we are is tits and ass to most men anyway. Guess college campuses shouldn't be immune to treating women like objects. Oh.. but some here will argue that women are posing for this! Yeah.. there are always a few with no sense or pride.

Yeah ladies.. you just keep starving yourselves, dressing like prostitutes, posing nude, playing dumb, and watch as you grow and your children are sent off to die in meaningless wars, while our environment is trashed, while your jobs are sent overseas, and you never, ever, exercised the power that you were born with. Oh, but damn those $300 highlights look marvelous.
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TroglodyteScholar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-05 11:28 AM
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14. Condescend much?
Like it or not, there are mature and confident women out there who might <<<GASP>>> make decisions for themselves. I consider myself a feminist, and your tone sums up what is wrong with today's feminism. The woman is ALWAYS a victim, right? Nevermind that the article said women were holding powerful positions. We must coddle women because they all have it so bad -- no woman ever did anything without consulting fashion magazines and her abusive husband first, right?

How about this...Rather than crying about exploitation and talking down to women who make different choices from you, why not give them half an ounce of credit? I find your attitude to be equally sexist as someone who actually *does* openly see a woman as a sex object. At least the latter person is being honest about their opinion. You seem to have yourself convinced that your "high-and-mighty me, poor-poor defenseless girls" outlook is actually BENEFICIAL to women...!

I love women. I think they should rule the world. I also think they are capable taking care of themselves without you telling them how to behave.
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Runcible Spoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-05 11:45 AM
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15. I agree.
time to trim back the Bush and let the PUSSY RULE! :evilgrin:
HAving said that, the Ivy sytem is a load of bullshit academically.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-05 04:48 PM
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18. Gay male porn doesn't exploit women
I remember a friend of mine leaving an adult bookstore where the fundies were protesting "the exploitation of women."

The guy said, "But... but... I'm buying gay male porn!"
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-05 04:54 PM
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20. Amen!
Merci beaucoup for that!
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mongo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 11:29 AM
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22. Being a feminist
means that YOU get to decide what other women can do with their bodies and their lives, right?

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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-05 04:45 PM
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17. See related thread: GOP Donors drip with porn money
Edited on Sun May-01-05 04:45 PM by IanDB1
GOP Donors drip with hot, sticky porn money
Topic started by IanDB1 on Dec-22-04 11:11 PM (6 replies)
Last modified by Moderator on Dec-23-04 12:30 AM
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=1093853
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barackmyworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-05 05:05 PM
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21. Harvard's is NOT a porn magazine!!!!!
It is ridiculous to call it that. There are a few, very classy, very artsy photos that anyone would consider "nude art" not "porn." There are articles, stories, art, poetry...nothing at all like porn.
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