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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-03 05:19 AM
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George Tenet will resign Monday.
Even though the latest information shows that he advised the Bush Administration about the dubious nature of the Niger uranimum story months before the SOTU speech. After the weekend talk shows have been digested, Bush, Card, and Rove will make the decision that Tenet will have to go. He will be asked to resign immediately.

Their hopes are that this will put a damper on the "lie" about Saddam acquiring uranium from Niger. This is step two in their ongoing effort to cover-up this scandal. Step three is still to be decided.

Tenet has been vindicated in this affair, to a large degree. but the Bush people will spin it such that they have taken steps to clear up the matter and it is time to move "forward". How do we know this? Because there is a pattern to their deceptive little minds and it is not difficult to see what direction they are headed.
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KC21304 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 01:33 PM
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1. I don't see that happening. Tenet knows too much.
Mainly about pre-9/11. That is the only reason he is still there.

I wish they would fire him. Then maybe we would get at the truth, with his help of course.
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gristy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 01:38 PM
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2. he will resign, but not that quickly
He's gotten too many words of "support" this weekend from * and Rice. Might take until the end of the week.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 01:44 PM
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4. Forcing Tenet out will backfire
First, it will not put to rest the controversy about WMD. Second, it will make the press focus its attention on the role Dick Cheney played in this mess.
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Merlin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 01:48 PM
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6. Amen. No way will they shove him out the door. He holds the family jewels.
The only way they could have induced him to fall on his sword, imo, was to assure him immunity from being fired. If he goes, he tells all.
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 09:33 PM
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17. Or a huge pay-off & promises of future compensation. n/t
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Pepperbelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 01:45 PM
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5. I think that this is what Levin was trying to forestall ...
it is not about the Niger thing. It isn't even about WMDs. It is about a rush to war and the only question is WHY DID THE WH WANT TO OVERRIDE TENENT'S WARNINGS?
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 02:08 PM
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7. The reason I say "Monday"...
is because this Administration does not like to see problems fester. They like to see them taken care of as soon as possible. That is why Condi called Tenet from Africa to request he take blame for the original "lie". They are in damage control mode.
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 09:35 PM
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19. but.. they tend to do these things on days that won't get much
news coverage.

Didn't the SnakePitt of the SEC resign just after the elections?

Don't they tend to do these things at the beginning of a vacation or break - or very late on Fridays?
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skip fox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 02:16 PM
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8. Tenet's future testimony:
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 02:19 PM
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9. He'll write a book on the whole thing, trashing Team Bush
And we'll all see how dangerous this administration is.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 02:27 PM
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10. Haha, Good Headline. If Not TENET, Who?
Edited on Sun Jul-13-03 02:35 PM by UTUSN
There's a post somewhere with the line-up for the "2nd" Shrub Mal-administration, that Darth RUMS will depart, AND TENET, that ARMITAGE will take TENET's slot.

It's too convoluted for my puny low tech brain: Let's see, Condi sez TENET signed-off on the SIXTEEN WORDS and Shrub appreciates TENET taking him off the hook. But other stories say TENET warned the Shrubbites last October. So, why would he sign off on something he had warned against previously? And we now come to, WHO OVERRULED him?

Haha, Condi said neither she nor CHEENEE had even HEARD of Ambassador WILSON, didn't know he had been sent to Niger to investigate. Who sent him?----CIA?

So, if TENET is made to resign himself, Shrub gets to "look to the future, no fingerpointing" again, while looking DECISIVE in "fixing" a problem.

Since I don't get it, will just haha.
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 02:31 PM
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11. and God spake unto george...sacrifice Tenet
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annagull Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 09:35 PM
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18. great pic, Radfringe!
Lol, that is really funny! :-)
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fishnfla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 02:43 PM
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12. Good call Kentuck
Edited on Sun Jul-13-03 02:58 PM by fishnfla
He got the dreaded 'vote of confidence' on Friday. They wanted to see how the press and himself would react. He will be asked to resign or fired this week. The NFL owners do this all the time with head coaches.

Good call Kentuck.

On edit: to make better sense, (I need alot of help with that).
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Capn Sunshine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 02:47 PM
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13. IT LOOKS AS IF THEY WISH TO TAKE TENET DOWN
Specifically to make his release of 9-11 info

"suspect"
:nuke:
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qandnotq Donating Member (481 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 02:47 PM
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14. resignations always on Friday, and after the news
it buries the story
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 09:31 PM
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15. Kick for Monday n/t
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elcondor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 10:58 PM
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29. You are correct
90% of the time, resignations happen on Fridays so that they end up in the Saturday paper--the story is dead by Monday evening news. But I agree that Tenet will go down as the first of many sacrificial lambs.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 09:32 PM
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16. CIA has a lot of power
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antigop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 09:38 PM
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20. MSNBC/Newsweek story says Tenet may be on the way out
Edited on Sun Jul-13-03 09:41 PM by antigop
http://www.msnbc.com/news/938245.asp?0cv=CB10

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Either way, NEWSWEEK has learned, Tenet may not be in the job much longer. Sources close to Tenet say he is pondering his exit strategy. He had already been thinking about calling it quits, they maintain. At six years, he has served longer than all but two of the agency’s past directors. But the timing is tricky: go now, and it looks like he was forced out. Wait too long, and he risks becoming an issue in the 2004 campaign. Bush voiced confidence in Tenet on Saturday, but, as one official says, “he’s not going to stay forever.” The knives are out: Pat Roberts, the Senate Intelligence chairman, scolded Tenet for his “extremely sloppy handling” of Iraqi intelligence and denounced agency leaks “to discredit the president.”
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 09:38 PM
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21. I know a few repubs and that won't solve anything
I can't imagine any of them accepting the "he did it" solution from Bush. None of the faux repub "values" will allow this buck to be passed. Before a resignation, I'd look for obfuscation and diversionary tactics.

If leaks keep flowing and the press keeps printing what many have known for so long, this admin is going down.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 09:42 PM
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22. I'll Scrimp and Buy His Book n/t
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jarab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 10:10 PM
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25. His position in government
would likely preclude the publication of anything of substance after the Feds redact anything they damn well please. There certainly wouldn't be any continuity.
...O...
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 11:06 PM
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30. If he goes, the CIA will make things very
uncomfortable for Bush Inc. They do not forgive and forget.
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DrBB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 09:42 PM
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23. "Haven't we suffered enough? What do you people WANT"
Yup, it would be a damn good move. All they want is something they can say that silences the questions without answering them. This would do it. "We sacrificed this guy. He was great, but he fucked up and had to go. Yet you just keep hectoring and bugging us. You terrible terrible people. Haven't you done enough damage already?"

Yup, I think it would do it--plug the dam. The leakers would continue to leak but this could well deprive them of a demand for their product.

Wonder if there's any remnant of integrity in Tenet? That non-mea-culpa-mea-culpa of his made me think maybe there was. All it does is point straight back to Condi and Company with the question of why they were pressuring him to okay putting the story IN the speech. If they played it this way, the options for our side would narrow considerably.

But precisely because of how that Tenet statement was worded, I'm not entirely convinced he would go out like that. Here's a question: If this was what they were going to do, why didn't Shrump just ask for his resignation on Friday?
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 09:45 PM
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24. it was more than "months" before SOTU...try 2 years before
read this thread: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=37559&mesg_id=37559&page=#37981

snip from an article posted in post 11 or 12:
Cheney got into the operational side of intelligence as well. Reports in late 2001 that Iraq had tried to acquire uranium from Niger stirred such intense interest that his office let it be known he wanted them checked out. So, with the CIA as facilitator, a retired U.S. ambassador was dispatched to Niger in February 2002 to investigate. He found nothing to substantiate the report and lots to call it into question. There the matter rested – until last summer, after the Bush administration made the decision for war in Iraq.

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osaMABUSh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 10:35 PM
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26. Hasn't * put this behind him?
So a resignation would not make sense.

Seriously, no matter when Tenet goes it'll be ugly for *. So they have to time it as well as they can. I say in the dead of August when nobody is in DC and Shrub is hiding down in Texas.
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rhite5 Donating Member (510 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 10:52 PM
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27. I am not buying ...
I think this is far from over.
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 10:56 PM
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28. Of Course Tenet's Gone
They would love to replace him him with someone of their own, someone who's is even more morally bankrupt and decrepit. However, I can't say when. Maybe tomorrow...Tenet resigning however will make sure this story stays alive and has even more appeal...
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EFF BrandyWine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 11:14 PM
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31. You are right.
Bye George. Don't let the door hit you on the way out. Does not look good for Mr Tenet, but the CIA might not take it lying down. You never know. This might finally be the "it" that awaken the sheeple.
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Aristus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 11:19 PM
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32. Ouch! The sword hurts when you fall on it like that, doesn't it?
Go on, rat the Bushies out already!
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JustJoe Donating Member (535 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 11:24 PM
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33. The interview shows today
didnt really focus on Tenet or even ask many questions
about him re the SOTU/Niger lies. I think the "Tenet did
it" strategy aint working nowhere near like they hoped. It's
almost as if now even if they do fire him, it wont be
putting much behind them in this issue, because Tenet isnt
the one with all the baggage--Rice, Rumsfeld, Cheney etc. are.
His mea culpa was so full or nea not culpas that it didnt
really snap like they hoped. Tenet forgot to pick up his
suitcases as he inched toward the door, so Rice/Rummy picked
them up to help him leave & they were carrying them when the
lights went on. Going somewhere?

So firing Tenet will be like ho-hum you still havent answered
the questions, you still havent offered even a COHERENT
narrative of the hows, whos, whens & whys of the Niger issue.
Was the 16words wrong or not? Was it wrong only because it
was the SOTU? Was it inaccurate, wrong, incorrect, or simply
inappropriate for the speech? Do you believe the Niger story
is true nonetheless? Because of Brit intel? Have you seen
the Brit Intel? If not, why in God's name not? That's the
biggest BS of all, that Rice et all still seem to be saying
they havent seen the separate Brit Intel on Niger and/or
other African nations re uranium to Iraq. So, firing Tenet,
or getting him to quit, will not take much from the issue.
The question will remain--another brick in the collapsing
wall of * invincibility.
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