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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-05 09:18 PM
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We don't even own our breweries anymore?
I am watching Law and Order and Anheiser/Bush is running an ad claiming that it is the only US owned brewery in the country. I am truely amazed. Is there any business left that we actually still own?
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-05 09:21 PM
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1. Nope, Corporate America sold our economic security to the highest bidders.
Miller's owned by a South African company.

NGU.


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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-05 09:23 PM
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3. That still leaves
Coors, Pabtz, Old Milwakee, Rolling Rock, and a host of others.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-05 09:26 PM
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8. Old Milwaukee's owned by Pabst which I think is now owned by Coors...
...and I can't remember who owns them.

NGU.


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bornskeptic Donating Member (951 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-05 11:59 PM
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21. Actually, Pabst and Old Milwaukee
are owned by Miller, as are Hamms, Schlitz, Olympia, Rainier, Strohs, Lone Star, Heilemans, Henry Weinhards, and several other brands. Rolling Rock is owned by Labatts(Canadian).
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salvorhardin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-05 09:22 PM
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2. Hmmm... I could have sworn
that F.X. Matt's in Utica, NY (they also produce Saranac and are contracted for Sam Adams in addition to their piss-water nominal brand) was still American owned. I could be wrong.
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-05 09:25 PM
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4. iirc, Coors is American owned ... and they just bought Molsons
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 12:39 AM
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25. Nazis don't count as Americans
I think that's the rule. O'Course, that rule may have just recently changed, too.
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-05 09:26 PM
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I know Miller is owned by a South African corporation.
About 2-3 years ago I think. Coors is still owned by the Coors family mostly isn't it? Damn, with consolidation there's only 3 or four biggies and some niche breweries like Sam Adams or Grainbelt.
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-05 09:26 PM
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5. If you live in a large enough town, buy local
We have a slew of little micro-breweries here in Knoxville - and this is in the South! Horrors! :)
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dxdem Donating Member (246 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-05 09:26 PM
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6. I saw that same commercial,
and truthfully, whoever made it earned there money, on artistic credit. I have to admit, it was very well done. Made me kinda proud to be an mur-can.
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Bill McBlueState Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-05 09:26 PM
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7. they forgot to say
They forgot to say "crappy watered-down mass-marketed" after they said "only." Apart from that, maybe they're right.

But there is Coors...
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doc03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-05 09:26 PM
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9. I know Coors are Repugs but isn't the brewery still
owned by the Coors family. What about the small regional breweries such as Iron City?
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mcscajun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-05 09:50 PM
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11. Coors merged with the Canadian company Molson last September...
...and while it was billed as 'a merger of equals', Molson is the controlling entity.
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Tux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-05 09:49 PM
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10. Please tell me
Sam Adams is still American owned.
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mcscajun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-05 09:54 PM
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12. So far as I know, the Boston Beer Company still produces Sam Adams,
and I haven't heard anything about foreign-based mergers or takeovers.

Whew. :)
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livinginphotographs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-05 09:59 PM
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13. That's pure crap.
There are so many microbrews that are produced here. Legend, Richbrau, Main Street Brewery for example are a few that are made in my town.

Then there's Rolling Rock, Brooklyn Brewery off the top of my head (I'm enjoying a Rolling Rock right now).

Maybe the only piss-water crap beers that are owned by murikans are Busch beers, but they are definitely not the only American-owned beers out there.
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-05 10:01 PM
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14. I was figuring they weren't counting microbrews
since those aren't large scale national breweries. But I had figured that Rolling Rock would count. I have lived in several states east of the Mississippi and all of them have had Rolling Rock.
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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-05 10:03 PM
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15. Major brewers, not microbrewers
Coors and Molson merged, and I get the impression, from local Denver news, that Molson is really in charge of the new company.

Microbrewers are pretty much all local. They're too small to be attractive targets for foreign takeovers, after all. They also make far better beers than the big brewers.

Be all that as it may, I'm disappointed to see such xenophobia on DU. It shows up often enough, e.g. in discussions about an amendment allowing the foreign born to run for President.
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-05 10:32 PM
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16. I am not xenophobic
but unless a country has a manufacturing base, it will not have a middle class for long. Just who is going to buy stuff if all of our products are made elsewhere?

As to foreigners running for President, I tend to think the people should get to vote for whom they wish. If that ends up being Arnold, then it ends up being Arnold.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-05 10:56 PM
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18. Err, the foreign born you speak of is Arnold Schwarzenegger.
It's hard enough having him for governor. He has a new ad that states for every $100 California collects, it spends $110. He backs his claim with nothing. Then he blathers on about fiscal responsibility and fixing the money problems in California.

The best thing would be to indict former governor Pete Wilson for allowing Enron to bankrupt us but Pete Wilson is back running California for Arnold. Silly us. We don't know what's good for us. He's had all this time to "open the buks" as he promised, since the recall and apparently all he can to is make commercials while Pete Wilson throws poor people out in the street and takes their medical care away from them.

Is this asshole whom you want an ammendment made especially for?
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DulceDecorum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 12:24 AM
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22. With all due respect,
Edited on Thu May-05-05 12:26 AM by DulceDecorum
I think that the people who are born and reside in a country should be the ones who get to run it.

This means that
the US citizens should govern the US
the Austrians should govern Austria and
the Iraqi should govern Iraq.

I do not think this is xenphobic.
Xenophobia is when one group of people, say, Arabs, are imprisoned and tortured just because they are Arabs
despite the fact that they are voting citizens of the nation which is doing this to them.


Hypocrisy is the hallmark of today's Republicans
and a certain foreign-born governator is a prime example of this.
We as members of the Democratic Undergound, oppose hypocrisy which means, that we oppose the Republican party.
And Herr Gröpenfuhrer.
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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 12:28 AM
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23. I'm foreign born
I've been a U.S. citizen for 43 years.

I'm constitutionally forbidden from being either President or Vice President of the U.S.

Xenophobia.
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Double T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-05 10:45 PM
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17. The US Government Will Probably Be Selling The Keys.......
.....To Our Entire Nation On eBay Next
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evlbstrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-05 11:05 PM
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19. Let's bid on them!
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Abelman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-05 11:14 PM
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20. Even not counting microbreweries...
and brewpubs, that's still inaccurate. Whether a brewery is a brewery or a microbrewery depends on the amount of beer produced annually. There are many, many locally owned breweries in the United States. I suppose they could be owned by larger companies, but I'm not doing the research on that. Breweries that come to mind:

Kalamazoo Brewing Company
Alaskan Brewing Company
Leinenkugel's

All three of those are large enough to be considered full scale breweries. Also, their products don't taste like cold pee.
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 12:32 AM
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24. Drink Sam Adams

Patriot. Brewer.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 12:50 AM
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26. They must mean major brewery as opposed to microbrews
Heaven knows they're American.
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