The excommunication of Democrats in North Carolina!! (link)

I have taken the liberty of starting a new thread with the link showing the East Waynesport Baptist church's excommunication of Democrats.

http://home.comcast.net/~walldude1/wlos.wmv

let's get it sent to Randi, Keith and Jon.. (and every other media outlet you can think of!!)

http://www.wlos.com/

They have one squinchy pargraph about it. It's up to US to get the word out.

as far as I can tell in searching.

This is so shocking! x(

is for this story to be blasted to news organizations in hopes that they descend on Waynesville and shine some light on these people, and that the excommunicated get numerous interviews. Let the preacher who refused to be interviewed by WLOS be hounded by the press.
Let the church members who clapped explain to cameras their lame POVs.
BTW, this is not all that far from Eric Rudolph's haunts.
Let the circus begin. ..fingers crossed..

destroying devils!

ROTFLMAO Ok, now that one is going to be hard to top today.

from the Greatest page) here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=3604552&mesg_id=3604552

I figured that a new thread would get more eyes...

Huh?

a misunderstanding, unless we stay on it like flies to honey.

The spin is more worrisome to me than anything, somehow.

My heart bleeds for those asked to leave, and they deserve better than that fate.

should definitely be talking to them about their tax status. You absolutely, positively, cannot endorse candidates from the pulpit.

(At least I'm glad to see that over 40 church members quit in protest.)

case, but with ALL of them!

Something. We need people to know that someone's got their back, when they stand up to this shit.

So, this is what that thread was about.

This "church" should lose its non-profit status and get ripped by the community.

Shame, shame, shame!!!

being a church there wouldn't be a post, but the church, or the pastor, is trying to be a political voice and that's NOT a church.

TAX THEM!

IF we don't stay with this nearly obsessively, this is what the spin will be.

There are minions at the Heritage F already spinning it, no doubt about it (remember Falwell is on the board of directors, and I believe Robertson is too).

I have always taken a very moderate position when it comes to religion. But, with the Frist thing a few weeks ago, and now this, it's important to address. This is absolutely crazy. Insane. And for the pastor to claim that it wasn't politically motivated is absolutely insane and disingenuous.

I'm really disheartened by this. Those excommunicated for their political stance should fight back, and hard!

they did not leave on their own. The story is not about sour grapes. These people were thrown out of their church! They don't look or talk like stereotypical "liberals" (at least from what I saw). I'd like to see them invited onto some talk shows.

in watching the WLOS story, is that the ousted members when interviewed came off as very ordinary people. They are "neighbors", regular southern raised folks, the furthest thing in the world from the stereotyped wild eyed Massachusetts liberals.
Their short interviews were very effective.

Frist and his cronies at the Feritage Foundation, but there's nothing "spun" about those folks.

They are just very nice people who are probably hurting very deeply now.

If anyone saw me, they'd not think I was some stereotypical "wild-eyed" liberal, either. I look as much like "everyday folk" as the day is long and so do most of my Democrat friends down here.

in politics, and we knew every single Democrat in our small towns (small enough in most cases to have only one precinct).

The Democrats I grew up with were people like these good folk--churchgoing, rural (aften in farming), hardworking, NICE.

The Democrats need to work on really bringing them back into the party, and we need to exploit them to some degree.

I wonder, if in some wierd way, this could backfire to our advantage?

is run a MASSIVE ad campaign showing REAL regular every day Dems (especially from the south and running the ads IN the south) just saying "I'm a Democrat." Tons of us, maybe twenty of us in each ad, just saying "I'm a Democrat." Short, simple and powerful.

Let the rest of the country see we look just like anyone else, we sound just like anyone else, we don't have horns or a tail. We're just regular people.

My entire family, for generations, has voted Dem. We were farmers and small business owners and teachers. And still are. :D Well, none of us are farmers anymore.

(Blatant plea for a kick)

I think a lot of DUers just have no idea about our type of Dem.

Thanks!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x3607098

i hope someone who could make this happen is paying attention.

I have thought the same thing too (Howard...did you get that). I am from Texas and there are many yellow dog DEMS here (remember our first native Texas president was Johnson--Civil Rights Act, School Lunch program, etc).
I attend church every Sunday, read my bible daily, and tithe 10% of my gross. I never pass up a bake sale craft sale, fund raiser, etc that I don't donate. I believe that it is a woman's personal choice as to weither she has an abortion or not, and I will support her either way.
I know how to hunt and believe in the rights (AND responsibility) to gun onership-but think assualt weapons should be banned. I listen to Air America and get my news from PBS and DU and think Fox News is FOS.
I served my country (even though women weren't required) proudly in the USAR for 8 yrs total. I get spitting mad that my friends neighbors or their children that are in the military are treated with so little reguard.
I work hard since I was 16yo and pay my taxes. I'd rather die first than collect unemployement (but times were so tough one time I had to-6 months after I had used up my severance AND savings). I never begrudged FICA being taken out because it helped my grandparents and my widowed sister. I hope not to need it myself but sleep better at night knowing it's there.
I am a Democrate and I am your neighbor.

(my husband did), I could have written your post word for word. Well, and I never took unemployment, but I credit a lot of that to sheer luck.

But other than that, you're me!

:hi:

there were absolutly NO jobs and I discovered I could go without lights and heat but no food was a bit problematic (I had emptied my pantry and I kept at least 6 mos supply) and I was too proud to to go to a pantry . My mom gave me a real ass chewing for not telling her how bad it really was, but I figured I was a grown up and could handle it. Live and learn-I now have a diffrent perspective. When I see someone sturggling-I don't even ask. I am proactive and give first ask later.

this is just crazy.

and got a busy signal...
Either the phone is ringing off the hook, or they took it off.
I'll keep trying.

more and more strongly identify the concepts of US versus THEM.

An alarmist view of this Orwellian turn of events might be as follows...

Some might call it a symptom of totalitarian tyranny running loose. I'll just say it brings to my mind the religious based civil unrest of Northern Ireland.

Our new national ID card could easily accommodate voter registration information...complete with party affiliation. Then they won't have to rely on the shape our noses, color of our skin, or folding of our eyelids to find us. They will be able to query our ID's from a safe distance and then expel us from _their_ places of worship, deny us jobs in _their_ workplaces, put us into camps, or give us that nine mm brass token for the bus ride to eternal freedom.

Here's a link to the discussion.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1763570

There are no linguistic accidents from the Theo/NeoCons.

I hadn't even considered the similarities to Northern Ireland--you are right on about that. :scared:

this pathetic assnozzle has taken this country, from a place where there was tremendous unity in the days following 9/11, to a point which I've never seen in all of my years on this planet (and I'm old enough to remember Vietnam as a young child)...

They are promoting in the United States a Christian version of the type of the wacko extremist fundamentalism that we feared was spreading through Islam at the time of the Fall of the Shah.

DeLay talks about Judges as though they must conform to some sort of Christian Sharia. And the proposed punishments he invokes for their failure to conform to his religious beliefs, guillotining and dismembering are clearly cruel and unusual.

History tells us the American colonies were not tolerant places. The first colony in Connecticut expelled colonists for not being true enough to the faith.

Now the radical religious right has taken the nation all the way back to conditions existing before the writing of the constitution, to a time of open religious persecution.

and calmly explained that this WAS a political action and as a good american, I was forwarding this information to the IRS.
I bet $50 that they will scream it was all a misunderstanding.
Oh and a real calm "shame on you"

the Heritage Foundation is no doubt already making those very nice people in the video (who are no doubt hurting terribly) into demons--and making us look like whining librulz.

...the IRS and The View.



Time to get back to work.

he is an evil, evil person

the republican party has evolved into.....wait a second, can't say evolved republicans freak out on that word.

Start excommunicating all Christian fundies out of our country!

What goes around comes around.

They've been skirting the IRS exemption for so long--Praise the Lord they've finally crossed the line. Now we'll see if there's any enforcement. If not, I'll bet there's a tax revolt.

This guy may be Baptist, but it looks like he's taking his cues from the new pope. Only the pope is smarter, if not less sleazy.

So the Catholics didn't want to give communion to Democrats and some Baptists want to expel them--either the IRS jumps in or somebody should give last rites to the seperation of church and state.

No sacraments for pro-abortion politicians. That was a direct attempt at influencing an American presidential election.

This Baptist pastor sounds like a Ratzinger wannabee.

He's got a long way to go, but he is off to a strong start.

Liberals being kicked out of a Baptist Church is like Jesse Jackson being kicked out of a Klan meeting--except Jackson has sense enough to stay away from Klan meetings. I feel sorry for the people who got kicked out, but they should have known that they weren't welcome and left a long time ago.

they are democrats.

did you watch the video and see some who were kicked out? they didn't seem exactly like raging liberal idealouges.

but the fact remains that they were not welcome and if they were very astute they would have noticed that a long time ago. You don't have to be a weatherman to know that the Republicans blow!

June 21-22 in Nashville:
http://sbc.net/redirect.asp?ci=699&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Esbcannualmeeting%2Ecom

Not just this, but ALL of the actions of Baptist Extremists!

not Waynesport

thanks for your energy and interest in this

libnnc

Apparently God and Politics don't mix.

(Russ Bowen, WLOS)
http://www.myrtlebeachonline.com/mld/myrtlebeachonline/news/local/11582657.htm

update: i'm all set, thanks everyone

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other than that I can't think of any avenue but to call Russ Bowen at WLOS.

at 11:30 am this coming Sunday? I can't imagine...

But I tried again just now and the phone rang about 20 times before I hung up. No more messages from outraged leftists!

Their number is 828.456.6841

Keep it up folks!:-)

If I were these people, I would never darken their doors again in my life. What about the child down the street that is hungry and living in a tin shack? What about the single mother that works two jobs to put food on the table? What about the kid that is going to join a gang or turn to drugs if he isn't "reached?" The video states that 40 other church members have left in protest. Good for them!

This "minister" needs to get his priorities straight, now.