Did Keith Olbermann really say this? - Democratic Underground

Catherine Vincent

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Sat May-07-05 12:55 AM
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Did Keith Olbermann really say this?

" Shallow, phony patriotism will always draw a crowd, like dogs humping in the street."
-- MSNBC's Keith Olbermann (reacting to the ratings showing that FOX News Channel was the most watched cable news outlet covering memorial events for Ronald Reagan)

NO WONDER I LOVE HIM!!!!

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hippiepunk

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Sat May-07-05 12:58 AM
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1. Yeah Keith!

Dude, :yourock:

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LostInAnomie

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Sat May-07-05 01:03 AM
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2. That's awesome!

:rofl:

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harpo

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Sat May-07-05 01:03 AM
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3. Keith is a good guy

:patriot:

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ThumperDumper

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Sat May-07-05 01:04 AM
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4. It's not unusual...

for Keith to go after FOX.

He analyzed FOX's ratings on his blog about a month ago.

He's one of the few journalists who isn't afraid to tell it like it is without being afraid of being accused of being biased.

He hates O'Riley. :) Makes fun of him all the time.

One good thing about MSNBC is that they call Scarborough conservative commentary, but they never succomed to the temptation (and pressure, I'm sure) to call Olbermann liberal commentary. They just call it news. As it should be.

You can always count on Olbermann. I write him and tell him so sometimes. :)

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Stinky The Clown

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Sat May-07-05 02:38 AM
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8. Olberman ... what the future of news could look like on a liberal network

Hip, edgy, entertaining .... and always truthful ... but with a liberal slant. Imagine if he were in a place that had a large number of viewers.

Is Rather's old job still up for grabs?

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ThumperDumper

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Sat May-07-05 01:06 PM
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14. Yeah, except...

I don't think he really has a liberal slant. I just think he's perceived that way by the right because he says things that should be obvious to all but that most journalists would shy away from anyway for fear of getting the label.

I recently heard Chris Matthews say that "a fact doesn't need an opposing viewpoint" which I have thought for a long time. I was surprised to see Chris say that since he doesn't practise it. Keith does.

I think we like Keith because he says what we're thinking.

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snowbear

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Sat May-07-05 01:11 PM
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15. ThumperDumper...

You don't think he has a liberal slant??? = :o =

That's the reason he was FIRED from Fox!!! Did you see the film "Outfoxed"?

The Keith Olbermann you see, is the REAL deal! :headbang:

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ThumperDumper

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Sat May-07-05 01:50 PM
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18. I actually don't...

Edited on Sat May-07-05 01:52 PM by ThumperDumper

I just think most people have gotten used to what it looks like when the media tries SO HARD to AVOID looking like they have a liberal slant. I don't think Keith has an agenda. I just think he's not afraid reporting things that irritate rightwingers without tiptoeing around it.

I'm willing to bet he'd do the same when reporting news that's embarrasing to the left.

Fox would fire someone in the center who was completely objective for being "biased", so that's not a good judge for me. I have seen Outfoxed, but it's been a few months.

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tinfoilinfor2005

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Sat May-07-05 08:54 PM
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34. Oh, I've heard him on Al Franken's radio show,

making grrreat sport of Bill O'Lielly...much more openly than he would even dare do on his own show. Leans a bit to the left? Yaaaa, I'd say so! And That Is A Good Thing!

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ThumperDumper

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Sat May-07-05 10:58 PM
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37. That's actually different. Let's do it this way...

OK. Let's be clear here. (Perhaps I should define my position a little bit better too.)

HE may lean to the left. ANY journalist can and probably does have political leanings. The difference is that a professional won't allow it to distort the stories they report. Keith is a pro. :)

I imagine, in the interview you mention, Keith felt he had some freedom that he doesn't feel he has while he's doing his job. For a pro it's kinda different when someone's asking you your personal opinion than it is when you're doing your job as a journalist.

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Stinky The Clown

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Sat May-07-05 01:18 PM
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17. I actually *do* think his show has a liberal slant

I agree with you're saying. he gives facts. But if you look at the show editorially, that's where you see the slant (NOT a bias ... just a slant). They cover stories the rest of the extremist media doesn't. If the rest would cover the same stories with some depth (not a brief mention at 4 AM, just so they can say, years later "of course we covered that") we'd see a lot less railing on them from our side.

So yeah, I think there's a liberal slant to his show.

And for that, I'm glad.

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ThumperDumper

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Sat May-07-05 01:53 PM
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20. I actually don't...

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Clark2008

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Sat May-07-05 08:33 PM
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28. Agreed.

He is a real journalist - he takes some shots at the left from time-to-time, too. He's analytical and refuses to report in a vacuum, connecting the dots on nearly a daily basis.
This is how TV journalism should be: hard-hitting, edgy, investigative with just the right pinch of snark to keep hold of wandering American minds.
(and yes, he really said it. I heard it live).

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ThumperDumper

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Sat May-07-05 11:03 PM
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39. Yes, connecting...

the dots. Good point.

I'm sure I've heard him take stabs at the left too; I just can't think of any examples at the moment.

Keep watching. It'll come up. ;)

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FreedomAngel82

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Sat May-07-05 11:09 PM
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41. Same here

He's just a journalist and he sees through the bullshit like with Fox and with that comment.

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WolverineDG

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Sat May-07-05 01:52 PM
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19. I think hate is too tame

a term for how Olbermann feels about the "Big Giant Head." ;)

Just a hunch.

dg

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ThumperDumper

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Sat May-07-05 07:57 PM
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22. Is that what he calls him? I don't think I've heard that one. : ) n/t

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WolverineDG

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Sat May-07-05 08:21 PM
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23. He said it on last Monday's show

when he was gloating about being right about the runaway bride. :)

dg

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Clark2008

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Sat May-07-05 08:39 PM
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32. And is name for Nancy Grace is:

Edited on Sat May-07-05 08:40 PM by Clark2008

Nancy "None of You are Innocent!" Grace.

:rofl:

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ThumperDumper

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Sat May-07-05 10:51 PM
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35. That's cool. I hate Nancy Grace too. ;) n/t

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FreedomAngel82

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Sat May-07-05 11:08 PM
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40. He is great

Thank goodness for him. Isn't his show the highest raitest on MSNBC? If so no wonder. ;)

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Syrinx

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Sat May-07-05 01:11 AM
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5. it seems questionable, but woo-hoo if he did

Google quotes up the wazoo that he did, but it's mostly right-wing blogs talking about how "uncouth" the Left is, and anonymous posters on left-wing blogs.

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fooj

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Sat May-07-05 01:37 AM
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6. Yep! Sure did!!! Hi Cat---

What's up, girlfriend? I watched Bill Maher tonight and I couldn't believe it, either. It was like a Shrub free-for-all! Haven't heard dissent like this in a very long time! Made me want to do the Wrigley's Kick! LOL!
How do you like the write-up for the ad? I sure hope that it works!

See you on the threads...

Peace:patriot:

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Catherine Vincent

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Sat May-07-05 11:03 AM
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13. Hi Fooj!

Didn't catch Maher but maybe crooks and liars will have the video available. I hope, sounds like I missed a good one.

I'm heading over to the thread right now to look at the ad and I am confident that you guys did great.:applause:

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Daphne08

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Sat May-07-05 01:52 AM
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7. Good for him!

I didn't see Countdown today but it's my favorite Cable news show. (I generally read newspapers since the network news is no longer newsworthy.)

Olbermann is a cutie, too. :blush:

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pearl

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Sat May-07-05 04:43 AM
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9. Oberman is the Edward R Murrow of our time

He rocks :bounce:

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Clark2008

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Sat May-07-05 08:52 PM
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33. Yes he is.

Smart IS Sexy!

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HeeBGBz

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Sat May-07-05 04:56 AM
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10. Ooh, rock on, Keith!

I wish I'd heard that with me own ears.

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radfringe

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Sat May-07-05 05:02 AM
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11. first the repugs wrapped themselves in the flag

and now they have laid claim to religion...

is there no end to their hubris?

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mmonk

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Sat May-07-05 05:15 AM
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12. I've got to remember that line

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RevCheesehead

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Sat May-07-05 01:11 PM
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16. For all you Keith fans -

Be sure to check out our Countdown/Keith Olbermann group:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topics&forum=315

We meet during every show, M-F at 8 pm (7 central) - join us!

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Jade Fox

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Sat May-07-05 01:57 PM
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21. He should have said "an ignorant crowd"....n/t

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Nevernose

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Sat May-07-05 08:22 PM
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24. Is he the "Michael Jackson Puppet Theater" guy?

If so, he rocks!

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annabanana

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Sat May-07-05 08:29 PM
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26. yuppers! the only one who covers the Jackson trial with the dignity

it deserves!

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Catherine Vincent

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Sat May-07-05 08:31 PM
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27. Yes, he is.

And yes he rocks. I think I'll call him Rock Handsome!:-D

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warrior1

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Sat May-07-05 08:25 PM
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25. go keith

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SalmonChantedEvening

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Sat May-07-05 08:33 PM
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29. Countdown is the only cable news show I can watch

Then quickly switch away once it gets to Abrahms and the nightly Wacko Jacko news

*shudder*

Tell it Keith, tell it!!!

:woohoo:

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dchill

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Sun May-08-05 01:55 AM
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42. As far as I can tell...

Countdown is the only cable news show... period.

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Catchawave

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Sat May-07-05 08:36 PM
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30. For Keith

:loveya:

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Toots

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Sat May-07-05 08:37 PM
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31. Except Fox is not a news channel

It is nothing more than a Propaganda Channel. And that is a fair and balanced assessment.

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EFerrari

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Sat May-07-05 10:58 PM
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38. One time, my hubby and I were walking in downtown Santa Monica

and a Faux News crew was setting up. Doug said, "What, Hallowe'en came early this year?" LOL!

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EFerrari

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Sat May-07-05 10:53 PM
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36. I LOVE YOU KEITH OLBERMANN! N/T

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