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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-05 05:46 PM
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You have to read this--"On the Brink of Theocracy"
Edited on Sat May-07-05 06:27 PM by Horse with no Name
I don't have a link--sorry.

On the Brink of 'Theocracy'
by Reverend Carlton W. Veazey

Progressives who think warnings about "theocracy" are an exaggeration should take a closer look at "Justice Sunday: Filibustering People of Faith," the Christian Right telethon headlined by Senate Majority Leader William Frist. Envision the carefully designed image that the far-right Family Research Council, the main organizer of the April 24 event, beamed into conservative churches across the country: a political rally from a large, comfortable mega-church in Louisville, with a middle-class audience listening with rapt attention to political operatives who self-identify as religious leaders-and at the bottom of the screen, streaming video with the photos, names and phone numbers of targeted U.S. senators. The visual message was clear: the church is dominant over the state and senators should toe the line on eliminating the filibuster and confirming Bush judges or pay the price.

There is a right way and a wrong way to engage religious voices in the public square. I believe "Justice Sunday" reflects the latter and highlights several disturbing trends. I agree with the Rev. Dr. Susan Brooks Thistlethwaite, president of the Chicago Theological Seminary, who called "Justice Sunday" sacrilegious and said, "The radical religious right turned a sanctuary into a political platform." As a Baptist minister for more than 40 years with a profound respect for religious freedom and pluralism, I fear it will get worse. In fact, I think we are teetering on the brink of theocracy and the Christian Right could conceivably use the battle over the judiciary and weakening support for reproductive rights to push us over the edge. Unfortunately, although Frist has been vigorously, and appropriately, criticized for his poor judgment and political opportunism in taking part in the telethon, the greater problem of sectarian religious manipulation of public policy debates has been minimized. President George W. Bush brushed off a question about the role of faith in politics at his April 28th press conference with the innocuous response that "people in political office should not say to somebody you're not equally American if you don't agree with my view of religion." Rather than give a high school civics lesson, he should have had the courage to disavow the religious arrogance and extremism of "Justice Sunday."

The Christian Right's posture in the showdown over the "nuclear option" has been a stark lesson in how religious language and imagery are inappropriately seeping into government and politics. First, of course, religion is defined as a particular religion and then defined further as a particular brand of that religion so as to exclude all other views and versions as irreligious, immoral, or wrong. Moreover, in this worldview, Christianity and Country are inseparable. One of the "Justice Sunday" speakers, Dr. Albert Mohler, president of the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, put it in terms as chilling to religious liberty and diversity as any I've ever heard. Like other fundamentalists, Mohler believes there is only one correct interpretation of the Bible-his-and he equated the inerrancy of his interpretation of the Bible with the inerrancy of the Constitution, based on his biblical beliefs. In bringing the Bible and the Constitution together, fundamentalists like Mohler are moving toward mainstreaming their biblically based interpretation of the Constitution. Judges would be held to the standard of biblical teachings, as interpreted by fundamentalists. I don't doubt the sincerity of Mohler and other fundamentalist ministers who share this view that the Bible is literally true and they alone know what it means, but they are on dangerous ground when they then suggest that they alone also know what the Constitution means-and that anyone who thinks differently is anti-Christian. Christians have strong differences of opinion on the meaning of scriptures and most of us don't want to see a particular brand of Christianity held up as the only real Christianity. We certainly don't want a particular brand of Christianity enacted as the law of the land.

The theocracy envisioned by the Christian Right centers around their interpretation of "family" and "values," with the U.S. Supreme Court portrayed as the font of the anti-religious moral decay that is destroying America. James Dobson of Focus on the Family, another "Justice Sunday" speaker, railed against the Supreme Court as "arrogant and imperious and determined to redesign the culture according to their own biases and values," holding up the 1973 Supreme Court Roe v. Wade decision for special scorn. Roe v. Wade, abortion rights, and women's rights generally are among the favored code words for the America that the Christian Right loves to attack-an America of women and families where equality is possible. Reproductive justice is an issue on which they hope to divide and conquer progressives.

In my view, the intensifying battle over the courts has brought progressives face-to-face with the need to take a firm stand on the morality of reproductive rights. Not only must we overcome the polarization generated by the Christian Right, we also must find a way to come together in compassionate concern for women and families. Speaking as a minister, I believe that the realities of women's lives must be included in any vision of a moral society that honors individual dignity and worth. I believe that women, and men, cannot live in dignity and equality if they cannot render for themselves their most intimate family decisions. We must affirm that women's reproductive health and decisions about bearing children and forming a family are an integral part of a just society, related to and interdependent with health, legal, economic, racial, environmental, and peace commitments. We must acknowledge that poverty, physical and sexual violence, lack of education, poor health care, lack of affordable quality child care, and other economic and social injustices affect women's options and decisions about childbearing. Whether we are pro-choice or not on the issue of abortion, we must not ignore or further marginalize an aspect of life that is important to both women and men and essential to women's full participation in society. If we do so, we will cause irreparable harm to our own principles of justice and equality.

"Justice Sunday" gave progressives an opportunity to watch the Christian Right at work, stoking fears about change and inciting religious divisiveness. We have also seen, in the past few weeks, other religious and social justice leaders speak out about this divisiveness, including leaders of the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America, the National Council of Churches USA, Presbyterian Church (USA), African Methodist Episcopal Church, Religious Action Center of Reform Judaism, and The Interfaith Alliance. Millions of mainstream, moderate people of faith, and people who profess no faith, are concerned about more than the filibuster and confirming a handful of judges-they are concerned about the direction of their country and the future of a vibrant, inclusive democracy. Decades of progress for minorities, women, religious freedom, the environment, workers' rights, and other issues and groups that had been relatively powerless cannot be lost. Let "Justice Sunday" be a wake-up call; unless we are unified on all of these issues, we are vulnerable.

Reverend Veazey, a minister in the National Baptist Convention USA, has been president of the Religious Coalition for Reproductive Choice since 1997. Founder of the Coalition's Black Church Initiative, he is a leader in progressive social justice causes

http://www.americanprogress.org/site/pp.asp?c=biJRJ8OVF&b=667491
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-05 05:49 PM
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1. Recommended for Greatest.
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teach1st Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-05 05:52 PM
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-05 05:53 PM
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3. Thank you.
The site I read it from didn't have a link.

"I believe that women, and men, cannot live in dignity and equality if they cannot render for themselves their most intimate family decisions."
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-05 05:54 PM
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4. Yet the corporate criminals in the White House don't do a damn thing...
Edited on Sat May-07-05 05:55 PM by ClassWarrior
...for so-called "people of faith." No abortion ban. No gay marriage ban. No prayer in schools.

They want us to think it's a theocracy to distract us, but it's really the other way around:

The Terri Schiavo saga has prompted yet another round of fears that the Republican Party has been hijacked by religious conservatives. The truth, however, is just the opposite: Religious conservatives have been hijacked by the Republican Party.

http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-oe-chait1apr01.story

NGU.


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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-05 06:11 PM
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-05 06:27 PM
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7. ty Tahiti
I edited it. I think I am legal now.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-05 06:49 PM
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8. Kewl. It should make the mods happy, too, in case they were concerned.
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-05 06:26 PM
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6. To defeat the Evangelical Bush voters you have to understand them
This posting shows their 'end times' world view may hinge on misinterpretation of scripture...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1768503

If you shatter their confidence you will be hearing 'much weeping and gnashing of teeth'. They will be forced to deal with their consciences and woe be to them...
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Phoebe Loosinhouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-05 07:03 PM
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9. The New Religious Intolerance
(Apologies - I posted an identical response in another thread concerning pharmacists and the pill - but this thread really addresses my concerns.)

I see many related issues all coming together under this common theme of New Religious Intolerance : The casting out of the Democrats from the Baptist Church in North Carolina, these pharmacy and birth control issues, Creationism in the schools, Bill Frist on Judgement Sunday,and finally Cheyney referring to Dems as "the Other Faith".

It is a concerted effort to literally define Dems, or secularists, or anyone who believes that religion can be private, as the "Other"

It's interesting because it involves the activism of more than one sect: fundies, Catholics, and Baptists, under the sheltering umbrella of "Christian". The larger effort is to make "Christian" synonymous with "Republican". This is what the pastor in North Carolina was trying to do so overtly. I'm sure they're all mad at him for tipping the game prematurely.
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LdyGuique Donating Member (610 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-05 07:25 PM
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10. More on the topic of theocracy
Edited on Sat May-07-05 07:26 PM by LdyGuique
If you think adding back in “under God” to the Pledge of Allegience is their goal, think again. What they are already using is: “I pledge allegiance to the Christian flag, and to the Savior for whose kingdom it stands. One Savior, crucified, risen and coming again, with life and liberty for all who believe.”

“Most people hear them talk about a ‘Christian nation’ and think, ‘Well, that sounds like a good, moral thing,’ says the Rev. Mel White, who ghostwrote Jerry Falwell’s autobiography before breaking with the evangelical movement. “What they don’t know — what even most conservative Christians who voted for Bush don’t know — is that ‘Christian nation’ means something else entirely to these Dominionist leaders. This movement is no more about following the example of Christ than Bush’s Clean Water Act is about clean water.”

The godfather of the Dominionists is D. James Kennedy, the most influential evangelical you’ve never heard of. A former Arthur Murray dance instructor, he launched his Florida ministry in 1959, when most evangelicals still followed Billy Graham’s gospel of nonpartisan soul-saving. Kennedy built Coral Ridge Ministries into a $37-million-a-year empire, with a TV-and-radio audience of 3 million, by preaching that it was time to save America — not soul by soul but election by election. After helping found the Moral Majority in 1979, Kennedy became a five-star general in the Christian army. Bush sought his blessing before running for president — and continues to consult top Dominionists on matters of federal policy.

“Our job is to reclaim America for Christ, whatever the cost,” Kennedy says. “As the vice regents of God, we are to exercise godly dominion and influence over our neighborhoods, our schools, our government, our literature and arts, our sports arenas, our entertainment media, our news media, our scientific endeavors — in short, over every aspect and institution of human society.”

Full Article in Rolling Stone
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-05 08:30 PM
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12. Yep, that is the end game: Religious rulers
They will use anything they can to further their ends, be it abortion, gays, drugs, sex, whatever. Complete and utter domination of government is their goal.

Notice how they group all Dems into favoring abortion and gay marriage, when that is simply not true? They call Dems Godless. They claim Dems don't know the bible. These, and other lies, are spread through the media, the churches and on the street.

Were they to be absolutely truthful with their words they might get a better following, but then they would just be seen as self-righteous bible beaters, eh?

We must counter their dividing tactics by calling them on the truth at every opportunity.
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Shallah Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-05 01:42 AM
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14. Theocracy, Reconstructionists, and Dominonists - some links
In Theocracy They Trust
http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2005/04/11/judicial_conference/

Christian Reconstructionism calls for a system that is both radically decentralized, with most government functions devolved to the county level, and socially totalitarian. It calls for the death penalty for homosexuals, abortion doctors and women guilty of "unchastity before marriage," among other moral crimes. To be fair, Phillips told me that "just because a crime is capital doesn't mean you must impose the death penalty. It means it's an option." Public humiliation, he said, could sometimes be used instead.


A collection of interesting links in an old thread here on DU
Christian Reconstructionists are alive and well in the Bush Administration
http://www.democraticunderground.com/duforum/DCForumID60/30592.html


Avenging angel of the religious right
Quirky millionaire Howard Ahmanson Jr. is on a mission from God to stop gay marriage, fight evolution, defeat "liberal" churches -- and reelect George W. Bush.

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2004/01/06/ahmanson/print.html

In the summer of 2000, a group of frustrated Episcopalians from the board of the American Anglican Council gathered at a sun-soaked Bahamanian resort to blow off some steam and hatch a plot. They were fed up with the Episcopal Church and what they perceived as a liberal hierarchy that had led it astray from centuries of so-called orthodox Christian teaching. The only option, they believed, was to lead a schism.

But this would take money. After the meeting, Anglican Council vice president Bruce Chapman sent a private memo to the group's board detailing a plan to involve Howard F. Ahmanson Jr., a Southern California millionaire, and his wife, Roberta Green Ahmanson, in the plan. "Fundraising is a critical topic," Chapman wrote. "But that topic itself is going to be affected directly by whether we have a clear, compelling forward strategy. I know that the Ahmansons are only going to be available to us if we have such a strategy and I think it would be wise to involve them directly in settling on it as the options clarify." It was a logical pitch: As a key financier of the Christian right with a penchant for anti-gay campaigns, Ahmanson clearly shared the Anglican Council's interest in subverting the left-leaning church. Moreover, Ahmanson and his wife were close friends and prayer partners of David Anderson, the Anglican Council's chief executive, while Chapman and his political team were already enjoying hefty annual grants from Ahmanson to Chapman's think tank, the Discovery Institute.


SNIP

The institute is directed by Diane Knippers, an evangelical Episcopalian and writer who also happens to be a founding member of the Anglican Council and its acting executive director. She is the chief architect of the institute's Reforming America's Churches Project, which aims to "restructure the permanent governing structure" of "theologically flawed" mainline churches like the Episcopal Church in order to "discredit and diminish the Religious Left's influence." This has translated into a three-pronged assault on mainline Presbyterian, Methodist and Episcopal churches. With a staff of media-savvy research specialists, the institute is able to ply both the religious and mainstream media, exploiting divisive social issues within the churches.

"The larger framework for the challenge to the Episcopal Church is the ongoing right-wing effort to get control of the mainline denominations," says Alfred Ross, president of the Institute for Democracy Studies, a New York think tank that monitors anti-democratic political movements. "As the right looks to consolidate different squares on the chessboard, the mainline churches occupy key positions on that board."
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Kat45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-05 08:28 PM
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11. A kick for an important topic.
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intheflow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-05 10:49 PM
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13. I heard Veasey speak at the April 2004 Repro Rights Interfaith service.
He's a very powerful speaker. How wonderful to see him show up on DU! Thanks for posting this, Horse with no Name. :thumbsup:
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Phoebe Loosinhouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-05 09:22 AM
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15. Mary Matalin on MTP today - "the SECULAR left"
Here it comes! They all got the memo. We should be watching carefully for this phaseology in all future communications from the Republicans. You know, I think this newest campaign may have begun when Wolf Blitzer implied that Paul Begala could not be a good Catholic and be a Democrat during the Pope's funeral. Paul Begala called him on it pretty well and turned Wolf into a dithering idiot -"can't you take a joke?"

This is no joke!!.Christian, Faith, Belief= Republican while Secular, Godless, Unbeliever = Democrat. Call them on it every time.
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Daphne08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-05 01:54 PM
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16. Does the word "Inquisition" ring a bell with anyone here?
:scared:

We're already on the brink of Fascism with FISA, the Patriot Acts and now the REAL ID Act (that sneaky Sensenbrenner).

Can you imagine what could happen if these people DO gain more than just a foothold in government?







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