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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-05 05:49 PM
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The Right is even getting weak in their arguments
Read today on another message board


"The source is Immaterial when the Story is True"

lol--was stated after someone called them down for using an obvious right wing rag source.
They'reeeeeeeeeee meltingggggggggggggg.
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Salviati Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-05 05:51 PM
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1. Funny, that's not what they said about Dan Rather...
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Bigmack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-05 07:29 PM
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7. Rathergate report is bullshit!
Great review in NY Review of Books....

The Noise Machine has successfully made Rather and CBS out to be lying. Not really.....
- - - -
Report of the Independent Review Panel on the September 8, 2004 60 Minutes Wednesday Segment "For the Record" Concerning President Bush's Texas Air National Guard Service by Dick Thornburgh and Louis D. Boccardi
January 5, 2005, 224 pp.

"Lost in the commotion over the authenticity of the documents is that the underlying facts of Rather's 60 Minutes report are substantially true. Bush did not take the physical exam required of all pilots; his superiors gave him the benefit of any doubt; he did receive special treatment and Lieutenant Colonel Jerry Killian, Bush's commanding officer, was unhappy with the loss of ANG's investment in him when Bush informed Killian he was leaving for Alabama. Before the broadcast, Mary Mapes, the CBS producer of the program, confirmed the facts in the documents with retired Major General Bobby Hodges, who had been Killian's superior in the ANG. Later Hodges told the panel he did not think the documents were authentic, but did not disagree that the facts were substantially correct.

The panel was unable to decide whether the documents were authentic or not. It didn't hire its own experts. It didn't interview the principal expert for CBS. It all but ignored an important argument for authenticating the documents—"meshing." It did not allow cross-examination. It introduced a standard for document authentication very difficult for news organizations to meet—"chain of custody"—and, lastly, it characterized parts of the broadcast as false, misleading, or both, in a way that is close to nonsensical. One is tempted to say that the report has as many flaws as the flaws it believes it has found in Dan Rather's CBS broadcast."

http://www.nybooks.com/articles/17871
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-05 05:51 PM
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2. What a bunch of idiots. They know they cannot win on the truth. I look
forward to the day when they all go back to the used car lots where they belong.

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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-05 05:54 PM
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3. you get that in I/P all the time, defending the likes of Horowitz
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Jade Fox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-05 05:55 PM
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4. The scary thing is they believe the opposite too....
That the truth of a story is irrelevant if one discredits the source.
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TheFarseer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-05 06:01 PM
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5. What they really believe:
I'm right and you're a poopie face!
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-05 12:25 AM
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8. lol
ohhh too true.
:rofl:
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Freedom_from_Chains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-05 06:33 PM
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6. Well its not like there arguments were real strong to begin with
However, when they are just being peddled to people who make decisions on what they believe, the argument doesn't have to stand up to real strong scrutiny.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-05 12:31 AM
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9. Exactly
All they do is repeat talking points.
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