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maxrandb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 07:28 AM
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Pat Robertson: "A Modern Prophet"???
I'm not sure whether to laugh, or set my hair on fire and run screaming through the night. Check out this LTTE in the May 10 Virginia Pilot.

For those of you that have not been keeping up, the Rev Robertson recently made the point that, in his opinion, the judiciary in this country was more dangerous than a "few bearded terrorist". Not surprisingly, some people here in VA took him to task for it in the editorial pages of our paper.

Here's one guys response to the "persecution" poor ole Pat has been suffering.

I'm not sure if this is allowed, but I wanted to print out the whole letter. Link requires subscription, and LTTE is only available to paid subscribers, so I did not include link to it. Anyway, here's the letter in it's entirety. If it does not give you pause, then something is really, really wrong here. This is what their true objective is. They want to return us to the time of the Old Testament Hebrew Nation.

Here's the letter:

"I am a high school world history teacher and student of the Bible, particularly the Old Testament. I was amused and saddened by the invective published recently against Pat Robertson.

In the Hebrew republic, God was both head of state and head of the church; He was king and the sole object of worship. He acted through specially chosen people in both the civil and ecclesiastical governments.

When the Hebrew monarchy began, the human kings quickly proved that power corrupts. God raised up prophets to provide a check and balance. Inherently conservative, the prophets called the people back to the basics of moral, honest, just living. They were unpopular and many lived in fear, but they were very important to the continued happiness and prosperity of the nation.

Pat Robertson is a modern-day prophet. His position on the state of affairs in our judiciary in correct. The letters <"Pat Robertson vs the Supremes", May> give me exceptional material for classroom discussion.

I am saddened that we continue to fail to learn from our past. Americans are either ignorant of our history or we misinterpret its lessons. God is sovereign and He still uses prophets to hold us to His standard." :scared:

I won't publish his name, because I don't think that is appropriate, but I can tell you this right now...If this guy was teaching my child World History, my kids would be out of that class so fast their heads would spin.
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unhappycamper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 07:31 AM
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1. Pat Robertson: Radical Cleric
is a better title.
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imenja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 07:32 AM
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2. a false prophet
the man is a lunatic, plain and simple. That anyone takes him seriously is frightening.
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 07:36 AM
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8. Con man and swindler is more like it.
Bilking the elderly for over 100 million a year. That doesn't sound crazy to me.
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imenja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 07:44 AM
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17. Did you see him on This Week with George Steph?
a couple of Sundays ago? There is something seriously wrong with him.
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 08:11 AM
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32. Nope I didn't see him.
I just don't bother watching the Sunday shows. If I catch any of them it's only what small amount I might see during channel surfing.
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LaurenG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 07:33 AM
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3. Pat Robertson, James Dobson, Jerry Falwell
and many others are more dangerous to our country than all the terrorists combinded. The terrorist may take our lives but these very false prophets are taking our freedom.

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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 07:39 AM
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12. Jan Crouch....she's my modern day prophet (warning...gag alert)
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blogbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 07:45 AM
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18. Jan always looks to me as a floozey on a couch in a temple of ill repuke.
Temple whore in other words..It isn't so much what she says or does in this case but more the way everything appears..I'm not trying to be hateful here but it always looks whorish to me..
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 07:52 AM
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23. That comment is very very mean spirited...
...I mean, whores usually look better than Jan Crouch!!

:eyes:
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blogbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 08:01 AM
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27. Lol! I wasn't thinking! What a distasteful thing for me to say about..
real working girls! They work harder and dress for the part they play..
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 08:09 AM
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30. If you give them $50 you know you're getting something in return...
..what can anyone get from Jan Crouch except empty promises
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Mist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 08:04 AM
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28. Maybe the $50 hooker look pulls in the rubes
Falwell, Robertson, et al. are the true UN-Americans.
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Donailin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 07:34 AM
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4. Pat Robertson mines for Diamonds
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jfw9999 Donating Member (48 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 07:35 AM
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5. End of Reason
Pat Robertson has also bemoaned the fact that only about 35% of Judges don't believe in evolution.... So we must assume that enlightened Group of Judges believe in "intelligent design/Creationism".

The objective observer to this kind of reasoning (or lack there of) DOES beg the question whether or not Darwin was right..... It certainly seems that, at least in the case of reasoning powers, Devolution seems a more apt description of the human condition rather than evolution.
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Jara sang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 07:36 AM
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6. He is right, actually.
Edited on Tue May-10-05 07:37 AM by Jara sang
I seem to recall that Moses made quite a prosperous living dealing in "conflict diamonds", getting rich from the torment and suffering of others in Africa... Oh wait, Moses was a slave and wandered in the desert for forty years, he was the tormented and suffered in Africa. I'm thinking of Pat, he is the war profiteer. Oh but it is God's mandate that Pat be rich and the rest of us cower at his feet. Clock is ticking Pat, you will meet your maker soon, I hope your soul is prepared.
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 07:36 AM
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7. no, just a cold blooded
vampire:

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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 07:36 AM
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9. That is why Jesus said
no one can come to the father except through me.




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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 07:37 AM
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10. Does that idiot know the New Testament nullified most of the Old?
Old Testament is mainly a history of the Christian faith, the new testament Jesus pretty much said the only laws was to love god and love one another.

:grr:

stupid ass fristians!
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Mist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 08:08 AM
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29. So much more fun to do the hate/intolerance/stoning thing n/t
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Zenlitened Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 07:37 AM
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11. Prophets are "inherently conservative"???
Nice little bit of pretzel logic going on there, huh? :crazy:
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 07:40 AM
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13. Pat Robertson is a joke, but unfortunately he has lots of money....
...Oral Roberts is another one, with one foot in his grave, he still pushes the idea that he is God's modern day prophet and receives messages directly from God. Then along the bottom of the TV screen is the address and phone where viewers can pledge their support. To sum up these claims in one word....Bullshit!
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chemenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 08:23 AM
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33. Pat Robertson and Oral Roberts are no jokes
Fanatics (particularly religious fanatics) with a lot of money and influene over the unthinking masses are terrifying and extremely dangerous.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 07:42 AM
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14. Hey, if he wrote the letter for publication, his name is out there
He no longer has a right to privacy.

I have to wonder what school he teaches at. I'll bet it's one of those private academies with suspect certification standards.
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maxrandb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 08:36 AM
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35. OK. I agree, but don't want to put his name out there.
Anyone that has a paper copy of today's VA Pilot may feel free to divulge his name, but I don't want to cause any problems for this guy. His letter is testament enough to me to prove he is a wing-nut. Don't want to start throwing names all over the internet.

For those of you that don't know, VA Beach, Chesapeake, Norfolk, Hampton Roads area is the home of Pat Robertson's Regency, Founders Inn, etc... and I think CBN is run out of here too. Not too far up the highway is Falwell's crap in Lynchburg.

It's "Fundy Central"

Funny, here in Hampton Roads, with the large Navy presence, combined with Pat Robertson's empire, we have an abundance of Baptist Churches and "Tittie" Bars. I find it hard to figure out which ones are the dens of iniquity.
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 07:43 AM
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15. So prophets support viscious dictators so they can own diamond mines?
I don't get it.
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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 07:43 AM
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16. "Hebrew Republic"?
When exactly did that exist? And if "He acted through specially chosen people in both the civil and ecclesiastical governments", who exactly did the people vote for? Or did God rig the vote by Divine Will?
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maxrandb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 07:55 AM
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25. What I don't Understand is
He says that God chose the kings, but then the kings became corrupt with power. Is he saying that God made a mistake? Maybe God didn't check their resumes closely enough. Maybe God should have asked for some references, or character witnesses. :wtf:

Don't you think God could have done a better job screening these kings in the first place? I mean, God had to know these guys would be corrupted by power, didn't he? Is that what happened to the Republicans?? Were they chosen by God, but maybe God made a mistake. Sure seems to be a hell of a lot of corruption going on.

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Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 08:27 AM
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34. The bible cites God saying he made a mistake with kings.
Seriously.

Pat doesn't need to invent such a claim. God's quoted as saying he made a mistake *there*.
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City of Mills Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 07:45 AM
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19. Hope there's a God
I'm going to hell, sure, but Satan will let me torment lower-rung dung like Pat Robertson so it's all good ;)
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 07:47 AM
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20. No. Robertson is God and Donald Trump is his prophet.
It's all about













It's all about $$$$$$$$$$.



















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blogbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 07:48 AM
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21. In a way Pat reminds me of a sinister Mr. Haney on Green Acres..A
Edited on Tue May-10-05 07:49 AM by blogbear
mean spirited Mr. Haney with a goofy talk and grin but sinister and more than a little determined to sell you a bill of goods to profit himself, set you back, and ultimately screw you..
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 07:50 AM
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22. Radicals like Robertson make me sick
They are using religion to prey on innocent mis guided souls and forming their opinion.
They will surely be damned to hell for such acts.
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SalmonChantedEvening Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 07:54 AM
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24. They mis-spelled Profit.
:kick:
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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 07:56 AM
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26. Oh, the irony...
When I was in High School, people like this would get on TV and fret about role-playing games (like Dungeons & Dragons), arguing that role-playing was used as a mind-control technique and questioning our (people who played these games') ability to distinguish fantasy from reality.

I thought it then, and I'll think it again now: "Who the hell are YOU to claim that I'm the one "living in a fantasy world".
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chaumont58 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 08:09 AM
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31. Just as a curiosity
This caught my attention in your post:

"If this guy was teaching my child World History,"

When I was a sophomore in high school, lo these many years ago, I took a world history class and began my journey to atheism. It was many years ago, before the 500 channel TV satellite universe began, and I was exposed to the idea of all the different religions existant on this planet: more non-christians than christians. I suddenly realized that it makes no sense for a minority religion to be the one true religion.
I wonder if the teacher in your post ever has such converts in his class?
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maxrandb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 09:28 AM
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36. But What A Great Job for This Guy
Imagine a World history Teacher that only needs to go back 5,000 years!!! What a great job! Start with the story of Adam and Eve, then just a bunch of "begots", and voila, your right up to speed.
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 09:35 AM
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37. "beware of false prophets"
who said that?
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