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Cush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 05:44 PM
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Turn on CBS News
they are going to talk about why so many Americans think Saddam was involved in 9/11..after the break
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Emboldened Chimp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 05:45 PM
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1. Details for the cubicle bound, please!
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 05:45 PM
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2. they're quoting Ted K. "made in Texas"
this is good
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Brucey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 05:46 PM
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3. No tv here, tell us what's going on.
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 05:46 PM
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4. blaming BUSH

for the Saddam/9-11 connection,

now hitting Cheney!!

goes all the way back to the day of 9/11 (rummy!)

this is fierce!
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DemExpat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 05:47 PM
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7. On CBS????????Keep us 'feriners' posted, please!
:kick:
DemEx
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Cush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 05:47 PM
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5. mentioned Kennedy
Edited on Thu Sep-18-03 05:48 PM by Cush
talking about how the case was made up in Texas

Hehehe, they are going after Dubya, saying he put Saddam, AL Qaeda and 9/11 in the same basket in speech after speech...mentioned the CHeney comments on Meet The Press.

Now talking about how Rummy wanted to know if there was enough evidence to go after Saddam in teh days after 9/11

Said all the evience to link Iraq and Al Qeada was always 'thin'
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 06:22 PM
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18. speech after speech
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/10/20021007-8.html

October 7, 2002
President Bush Outlines Iraqi Threat
Remarks by the President on Iraq
Cincinnati Museum Center - Cincinnati Union Terminal
Cincinnati, Ohio


We know that Iraq and the al Qaeda terrorist network share a common enemy -- the United States of America. We know that Iraq and al Qaeda have had high-level contacts that go back a decade. Some al Qaeda leaders who fled Afghanistan went to Iraq. These include one very senior al Qaeda leader who received medical treatment in Baghdad this year, and who has been associated with planning for chemical and biological attacks. We've learned that Iraq has trained al Qaeda members in bomb-making and poisons and deadly gases. And we know that after September the 11th, Saddam Hussein's regime gleefully celebrated the terrorist attacks on America.


http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2003/01/20030128-19.html

January 28, 2003
President Delivers "State of the Union"
The U.S. Capitol

With nuclear arms or a full arsenal of chemical and biological weapons, Saddam Hussein could resume his ambitions of conquest in the Middle East and create deadly havoc in that region. And this Congress and the America people must recognize another threat. Evidence from intelligence sources, secret communications, and statements by people now in custody reveal that Saddam Hussein aids and protects terrorists, including members of al Qaeda. Secretly, and without fingerprints, he could provide one of his hidden weapons to terrorists, or help them develop their own.

Before September the 11th, many in the world believed that Saddam Hussein could be contained. But chemical agents, lethal viruses and shadowy terrorist networks are not easily contained. Imagine those 19 hijackers with other weapons and other plans -- this time armed by Saddam Hussein. It would take one vial, one canister, one crate slipped into this country to bring a day of horror like none we have ever known. We will do everything in our power to make sure that that day never comes. (Applause.)

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2003/05/iraq/20030501-15.html

May 1, 2003
President Bush Announces Major Combat Operations in Iraq Have Ended
Remarks by the President from the USS Abraham Lincoln
At Sea Off the Coast of San Diego, California


The battle of Iraq is one victory in a war on terror that began on September the 11, 2001 -- and still goes on. That terrible morning, 19 evil men -- the shock troops of a hateful ideology -- gave America and the civilized world a glimpse of their ambitions. They imagined, in the words of one terrorist, that September the 11th would be the "beginning of the end of America." By seeking to turn our cities into killing fields, terrorists and their allies believed that they could destroy this nation's resolve, and force our retreat from the world. They have failed. (Applause.)

<snip>

The liberation of Iraq is a crucial advance in the campaign against terror. We've removed an ally of al Qaeda, and cut off a source of terrorist funding. And this much is certain: No terrorist network will gain weapons of mass destruction from the Iraqi regime, because the regime is no more. (Applause.)

In these 19 months that changed the world, our actions have been focused and deliberate and proportionate to the offense. We have not forgotten the victims of September the 11th -- the last phone calls, the cold murder of children, the searches in the rubble. With those attacks, the terrorists and their supporters declared war on the United States. And war is what they got. (Applause.)


http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2003/09/20030907-1.html

September 7, 2003
President Addresses the Nation
Address of the President to the Nation
The Cabinet Room

<snip>For a generation leading up to September the 11th, 2001, terrorists and their radical allies attacked innocent people in the Middle East and beyond, without facing a sustained and serious response. The terrorists became convinced that free nations were decadent and weak. And they grew bolder, believing that history was on their side. Since America put out the fires of September the 11th, and mourned our dead, and went to war, history has taken a different turn. We have carried the fight to the enemy. We are rolling back the terrorist threat to civilization, not on the fringes of its influence, but at the heart of its power.

This work continues. In Iraq, we are helping the long suffering people of that country to build a decent and democratic society at the center of the Middle East. Together we are transforming a place of torture chambers and mass graves into a nation of laws and free institutions. This undertaking is difficult and costly -- yet worthy of our country, and critical to our security.

The Middle East will either become a place of progress and peace, or it will be an exporter of violence and terror that takes more lives in America and in other free nations. The triumph of democracy and tolerance in Iraq, in Afghanistan and beyond would be a grave setback for international terrorism. The terrorists thrive on the support of tyrants and the resentments of oppressed peoples. When tyrants fall, and resentment gives way to hope, men and women in every culture reject the ideologies of terror, and turn to the pursuits of peace. Everywhere that freedom takes hold, terror will retreat.
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 05:47 PM
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6. WH benefitted from association

WH never "meant" to confuse... oh no.

over now but that was HARD HITTING and HIT the entire inner circle of the cabal.....
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Demobrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 05:49 PM
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8. I can't frickin' believe this.
I mean it's great, but the press knows exactly why so many Americans think Saddam was involved. Or at least they should. It's because they saw it on TV! DUH!
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DemExpat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 05:51 PM
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10. It's not as if the press did any serious questioning
of the 'suggestions' now, did it?

DemEx
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Emboldened Chimp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 05:52 PM
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11. Maybe their covering their own asses
while Bushco tries to cover theirs.
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DemExpat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 05:54 PM
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12. Yep.....
DemEx
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Brian Sweat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 05:55 PM
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13. Good point.
I was watching Bill Maher on HBO last week and he was complaining the Terry McAuliffe about what a poor job the Democrats had done in making the point that Iraq was not involved in 9-11. I wanted to McAuliffe to point the finger at the liberal press but he missed the opportunity.

The media has a lot of nerve to attack Bush on this now. They have gone along happily for over a year and now that the BFEE feel compelled for some reason to deny linking the two, the media wants to know why.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 06:00 PM
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15. they feared being cut off
the bushistas are not above punishing reporters for asking the wrong questions.
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Emboldened Chimp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 05:50 PM
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9. This is too good to be true!
Can't wait to see the West Coast feed!
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 05:56 PM
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14. the BEST thing about stories like this is...

they really are *beginning* to question W.

the seeds of doubt, deceit and mistrust are planted in a pit of fertilizer left by BushCo itself.

they will grow because the LIES are there.

as Iraq continues to deteriotate, *'s pathetic 'top goon' stunt will humiliate him throughout the campaign (if the BFEE allows him to stumble on).

he can't use it and they know it will be used against him

all very good.
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DemExpat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 06:00 PM
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16. Rats leaving the sinking ship?
Edited on Thu Sep-18-03 06:00 PM by DemEx_pat
I can hardly believe that this will all just blow over.......

:nuke:

DemEx
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Brian Sweat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 06:23 PM
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19. Let's not get cocky.
The BFEE are not the infallible professional so many here want to believe they are, but they are not total political incompetents. I cannot help waiting for the other shoe to drop.
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AWD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 06:24 PM
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20. Nice plug
they really are *beginning* to question W.

Doncha just love those opportunities to shamelessly plug your web site?? Me too.

Keep fighting the good fight, my friend!
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bluedog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 06:09 PM
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17. all major
networks were running this....I don't watch fox....but our locals also have this running!!!!!!
A wake up call to the sheep......bush is fish food!!!!
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 06:25 PM
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21. awareness for the public is a process....let's see them keep this up
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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 06:39 PM
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22. I'll believe the media whores are sincere
Edited on Thu Sep-18-03 06:40 PM by JohnyCanuck

when they start pointing the finger to themselves. They bear equal responsibility for not doing their job and letting the propaganda go unchallenged as the Bushites do for creating it in the first place.

Now when the lid gets blow off the affair and Iraqis and Americans have died for a pack of lies, they're all falling over themselves to show us how it was all spin and propaganda from the get go. Fuck 'em, and that includes you Dan Rather.

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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 06:51 PM
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23. RED ALERT! evening@cbsnews.com
NOW IS THE TIME FOR ALL GOOD DUers TO COME TO THE AID OF THE BARE, BUDDING, DELICATE SPINES THAT ARE NOW STARTING TO GROW IN THE BACKS OF SOME IN THE MEDIA!!!

You can bet there's an organized effort to snuff this out among the freepers. We HAVE to respond and say TWO things:

1) THANKS!

and 2) MORE, PLEASE!!!!!!!
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 07:22 PM
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24. Gingrich bit the hand that installed him into the Speaker position
when he attacked the media.

Bush, a couple of weeks ago, said that "he knew" who was beating the drums of war (he said not him). A semi-left radio talk show host this afternoon fielded a couple of phone calls which were obvious Bush spinners (first clue, nukular; didn't mention "left" coast) - they were saying that Bush didn't imply it, the media was selectively playing Bush's statements to sway things, and the American population wasn't paying enough attention.

The hand has been bitten twice in the past few weeks. How long before they kill the damn mutt?
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