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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 07:13 PM
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Okay I didn't hear this with my own ears but...
I heard Rush actually said something intelligent...

"Social Security could be very good if only one small
change were made. And that change would be to jerk
the Golden Fleece Retirement Plan from under the
Senators and Congressmen. Put them into the Social
Security plan with the rest of us and then watch how
fast they would fix it."

Can anybody confirm this?
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Pepperbelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 07:15 PM
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1. Limbaugh rabble rousing is what it is ...
SS could be fixed if the pols would leave the money the fuck alone and raise the ceiling on it so that it won't be quite as regressive.
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 07:17 PM
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2. But...
I'm shocked that he's coming down that hard on a Republican controlled congress.
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janekat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 07:23 PM
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3. no kidding! If he keeps harping on them - we'll KNOW Bush is toast....
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southern democrat Donating Member (625 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 07:31 PM
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4. Thes fuckers are showing a little
compassion.This worries me.I don't believe them for a fuckin minuite.If they want to really save S.S. they should apoligize to Al Gore and ask him to run for pres.And not campaign agianst him.But I doubt this is going to happen.
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 08:18 PM
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10. Or at least...
Accept that Al Gore was right and try to enact some decent policies. Sure the SNL skits were funny as hell but let's face it had Gore or Clinton been given a chance to fix social security we wouldn't even be talking about it because it wouldn't be a problem.
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conservdem Donating Member (880 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 08:41 PM
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13. They did have a chance.
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mindfulNJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 07:46 PM
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6. yeah...
Rush will probably be secretly rooting for the Dem in 2004...I'm sure he had much more fun when Clinton was president. Its probably hard even for him to keep talking up Chimpy McCokespoon.
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 07:31 PM
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5. Social Security could be fixed if they'd raise or remove
the cap on how much earned income is taxed for it.
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 07:48 PM
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it could be fixed...
...if it were simply means tested. Welfare is means tested. Food stamps are means tested. Student loans are means tested. Why not social security? Why not Medicare?
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 07:48 PM
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7. Agreed
Raise it in increments:

Year 1 100k
2 150k
etc
Limit up to $1MM
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uptohere Donating Member (603 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 08:24 PM
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12. not really
payout is tied almost directly to payin. Raise the pay in and it just goes back to those people as payout.

Change the exemptions that allow for full payout without full payin and youcould help some.

As has already been stated, stop stealing the so-called surplus and invest it wisely and that will largely address the coming shortfall. Thats why there is a surplus, the rates were set to help offset the boomer shortfall period. THe fact that Congress created the term "surplus" to make it seem like pennies from heaven only goes to show how vile they are.
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arcane1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 07:52 PM
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8. Bush* often uses "Congress" to mean "Democrats"
maybe that's Rush's thinking too. Freepers are generally too stupid to realize they have the majority :silly:
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 08:16 PM
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9. LOL n/t

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Hamlette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 08:22 PM
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11. there is no golden fleece retirement for Senators and Congressmen
they do pay into SS, their retirement is the same for all federal employees. They changed the system in 1984.
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