Was Voinovich a true hero today?

Lovely Ms. Boxer was going on tonight about how noble and wonderful he was. What do you think? At least he spoke his conscience, even if he hasn't quite voted for it yet.

he would have voted no, but his speech on Bolton was a good thing. I give him props for that. Listening to Martinez go on about how great Bolton is almost made me puke.

As we know, integrity is in short supply on the repuke side of the aisle. Or it is being well hidden by senators who are in fear.

Frankly, this was quite a revolutionary act. This could embolden others to speak out and act out on the side of that which is objective integrity.

I hope so. It will serve to start some national healing and we so need that right now.

Trying to think positively, but holding my breath.

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Enough moderate Republicans are embolden to keep Bolton from getting the appointment.

but he acted like the independent that people in Ohio expect.

reasonable American.

the man has had to deal with astronomical pressure (probably including threats) and he stuck to his guns. Even though he voted Yes, it will go to the full Senate where he will vote No and perhaps have some fellow Mod republicans follow.

I'd like to believe he was acting in the best interest of this country and if so - then he was a hero.

Had he voted NO, the deal would be over and Bolton out.

His excuse that he would let the entire Senate decide is pure cover your ass bullshit. The purpose of committees is to weed out bad ideas BEFORE they get to the entire Senate and take up time. If everyone followed Voinovich's reasoning, there would be no need for committees at all. I'm surprised the Democrats didn't make that point.

He's a right wing toad that wants political cover. He'll say he voted against Bolton even though he now knows Bolton will likely be approved.

noble and wonderful.

Taking a strong stand against Bolton without doing a single thing to derail his appointment to the position.

He comes from a swing state, so politically this move simply allows him to cover his rear end with the moderates and liberals in his state but still let Bolton be confirmed, thus pleasing his GOP masters.

If he was a real hero, he would have stopped Bolton dead by denying him the floor vote.

if he hadn't had the sense to go "whoa!" when he did nobody would be talking about Bolton.

Voinovich obviously feels that Bolton will be a disaster representing the United States at the UN - and what did he do? Made sure to cast his vote in such a way that the nomination would be moved along to the full Senate where Bolton will likely be confirmed.

It is not heroic to know something is wrong, say something is wrong, admit to the world that something is wrong - and then effectively do nothing about it other than whine.

Voting no would have been the right thing to do. I'm not even sure that would have made him a real hero, but at least he wouldn't be a sell-out (on this issue).

It appears to me that at the end of the day, this was just politics as usual.

Just my opinion anyway,

Imajika

I tell you, he has SOME ulterior motive, I just have yet to figure out WHO now owes him.

Voinovitch has never been out for anything except himself...calling him a true hero is just not the eay to go.

If he had real courage he would have voted "No".

and just couldn't stomach quite that much bullshit.

But he has stomached himself some bullshit, and he will stomach some more.

I think he just couldn't take this really overwhelming level of tawdry garbage from the extremely slipshod amateurs of the Cheney White House.

He just fed some b.s. lines and still voted for him. If he was any hero he would've voted "no." To me he's just a shitter.

Voinovich has now thrown this mess to the world. Now it won't just be one or two 'pugs that could have kept Bolton from being confirmed (not letting it out of committee), Now EACH AND EVERYONE of Bolton's hideous characteristics will be laid open during full debate in the Senate..

and EACH AND EVERY ONE of the 'PUGS that want to ignore his reprehensible actions will have to go ON RECORD for the scum.

In some respects, Voinovich did us all a favor today..

either some 'pugs grow a pair and he's defeated or

they go whiney and CONFIRM him and show how little they care....

lose-lose.

people would think about it instead of voting for the party lines.

What does that do? Nothing. The republicans in the Senate will all vote a "yes" and not do anything for us. They don't work for us anymore but for Karl Rove and Dick Cheney.

thrilled with it going to the Senate because it will mean weeks of debate and more crap coming out about Bolton...

and we know he did, he didn't cave completely, like Hagar the horrible. A piece of sand can inspire a sandstorm!

He should have sent him with a negative recommendation. That's what he believed, so that's what he should have done.