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Blue Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 10:30 AM
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Calling All Hillary Fans: Help me with this email...
I received this email this morning from an uninformed aunt - just to be clear, this is the same aunt who sent me an email stating that the reason for escalating healthcare costs is all due to John Edwards winning lawsuits for his clients. Well, usually I catagorically delete her emails but for some reason, I read this one.
Please help me in crafting a response - because it so deperately needs to be done.

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Can you Believe This?

You really should be sitting down when you read this one.

Gold Star Mothers is an organization made up of women whose sons were killed in military combat during service in the United States armed forces.

Recently a delegation of New York State Gold Star Mothers made a trip to Washington, DC, to discuss various concerns with their elected representatives.

According to published reports, there was only one politician who refused to meet with these ladies.
Can you guess which politician that might be?

Was it New York Senator Charles Schumer? Nope, he met with them.

Try again.

Do you know anyone serving in the Senate who has never showed anything but contempt for our military?
Do you happen to know the name of any politician in Washington who's husband once wrote of his loathing for the military? Now you're getting warm! You got it!

None other than the Queen herself, Hillary Rotten Clinton. She refused repeated requests to meet with the Gold Star Mothers.

Now, please don't tell me you're surprised. This woman wants to be President of the United States --- and there is a huge percentage of Voters who are eager to help her achieve that goal.

May you sleep in peace always..and please...hug or thank a Veteran for that privilege.

Think about this one !!!

Don't forget, our girl, Hillary Rodham Clinton, as a New York Senator, now comes under this fancy congressional Retirement and Staffing Plan.

It's common knowledge that, in order for her to establish New York State residency, they purchased a million+ dollar house in upscale Chappaqua, NY.

Makes sense.

Now, they are entitled to Secret Service protection for life.
Still makes sense.

Here is where it becomes more interesting. The mortgage payments hover at about $10,000 per month. BUT, an extra residency had to be built within the acreage in order to house the Secret Service agents.
The Clinton's now charge the Secret Service $10,000 monthly rent for the use of said Secret Service residence and that rent is just about equal to their mortgage payment, .......meaning that we, the tax payers, are paying the Clinton's mortgage, their transportation, their safety and security, their 12 man staff, and it's all perfectly legal.

Sincerely, Cdr. Hamilton McWhorter US Navy (ret)

PS: Please forward this to as many people as you can. We don't want this woman to even think of running for President. So, just how many people can you send this to? It will take no more than 2 minutes. Thanks

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Can you believe this bullshit?? Please help me nip this in the bud.

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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 10:33 AM
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1. Snopes is your friend
http://www.snopes.com/politics/military/goldstar.asp

They classify it "false" only because they don't have a "bullshit" catagory.
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jedicord Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 10:34 AM
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2. Snopes it...
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Tim4319 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 10:41 AM
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3. This is a junk email you aunt sent you!

-Snip from Breaking the Chain-

Before you put too much clout in NewsMax as a reputable and unbiased news source, consider that they are well-known for their "get it out first, get it right later" approach to the news. They revel in outrageous conspiracies and the believably bizarre (they also brought us the Gary Condit gay biker conspiracy theory).



Here is the link:

http://www.breakthechain.org/exclusives/goldstar.html
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Blue Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 11:01 AM
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4. Thank you all...
This is some great info. I'm adding it to my response as well as some actual information (via House.gov and Senate.gov) about how Hillary is actually voting to help the soldiers this email claims she holds "nothing but contempt for" - unlike her Republican, "wrap themselves in the flag, supports the troops until it comes to giving them actual benefits or body armor, use the troops to rally the base" counterparts. It just pisses me off how this crap perpetuates!!
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 12:18 PM
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5. Tell the friend to call the GS Moms - and complain
laugh as the person gets an earfull of anger about how this is still going on even though they've been debunking it for years!
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CBHagman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 12:27 PM
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6. They arrested a Gold Star mother at a Laura Bush event.
See link:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/09/17/politics/main644005.shtml

And yet the Clintons are always being attacked for being against the military. :eyes:
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Blue Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 02:13 PM
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7. Here is my respones to the email...
Okay People…

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD CAN WE PLEASE STOP PERPETUATING THIS BULLSHIT EMAIL!!!

This thing has been in circulation since October of 2001 and now that Senator Clinton is up for re-election in ’06 it has made a come back, but the lies and misunderstandings have got to stop.

This email has been refuted time and time again. If you look at the following links, you’ll get a more accurate portrayal of what actually occurred:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/military/goldstar.asp

http://www.breakthechain.org/exclusives/goldstar.html


The most compelling argument comes from “our girl Hillary” herself. According to Senator Clinton’s Senate Web Site, she has met with the Gold Star Mothers and is currently working on legislation that meets that needs of this and other organizations that help Military families. Read the following:

http://clinton.senate.gov/issues_veterans.html
American Gold Star Mothers
Senator Clinton has had the honor of meeting with the American Gold Star Mothers, who do so much good work for families of the military men and women who paid the highest price in defense of freedom. She also has met with the Gold Star Wives, and is working with both groups on legislation of interest to their members.
In June of 2002, Senator Clinton, along with Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison, introduced legislation (S. 2602)to allow widows of our nation's veterans to remarry and still retain their benefits. Senators Clinton and Hutchison have reintroduced this legislation in the 108th Congress as well. Senator Clinton worked with the Gold Star Wives group to introduce this important legislation.
You may have heard about a myth that has been passed around the Internet by email that claims Senator Clinton "refused repeated requests to meet with the American Gold Star Mothers." Of course, it's not true, and for more information, you can go to the web site of the American Gold Star Mothers, http://www.goldstarmoms.com, where you will see that they have called for the e-mails to cease.
Furthermore, Senator Clinton has voted for legislation that benefits Homeland Security, the military, and their families – most of which, her Republican “drape myself in the flag, invoke the troops along with religion to rally my base, screw the troops when it comes to voting for granting them benefits” counterparts have all voted against. Look at the following for example, if you click on the link provided, and look at the breakdown of yeah/nay votes, you’ll notice that the majority AGAINST troop/Homeland Security support are Republican Senators (please note that the following resolution are for the 2005 sessions of the Senate).

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=109&session=1&vote=00108


Amendment Number: S.Amdt. 520 to to H.R. 1268 (Emergency Supplemental Appropriations Act for Defense, the Global War on Terror, and Tsunami Relief, 2005 )
Statement of Purpose: To appropriate an additional $213,000,000 for Other Procurement, Army, for the procurement of Up-Armored High Mobility Multipurpose Wheeled Vehicles (UAHMMWVs).


http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=109&session=1&vote=00096

Amendment Number: S.Amdt. 464 to to H.R. 1268 (Emergency Supplemental Appropriations Act for Defense, the Global War on Terror, and Tsunami Relief, 2005 )
Statement of Purpose: To express the sense of the Senate on future requests for funding for military operations in Afghanistan and Iraq.


http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=109&session=1&vote=00050

Amendment Number: S.Amdt. 147 to to S.Con.Res. 18 (Appropriations resolution FY2006, Budget )

Statement of Purpose: To protect the American people from terrorist attacks by providing the necessary resources to our firefighters, police, EMS workers and other first-responders by restoring $1,626 billion in cuts to first-responder programs.


http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=109&session=1&vote=00013

Amendment Number: S.Amdt. 16 to to S. 256 (Bankruptcy Abuse Prevention and Consumer Protection Act of 2005 )
Statement of Purpose: To protect service members and veterans from means testing in bankruptcy, to disallow certain claims by lenders charging usurious interest rates to service members, and to allow service members to exempt property based on the law of the State of their premilitary residence.

Senator Clinton, (along with Kerry and Kennedy – the other favorite GOP whipping boys) have also lent their support to other bills (which are currently stuck in finance committees) that will further extend benefits to our troops and for Homeland Security measures (look at www.Senate.gov on the legislation search engine keywords “Military” and “Homeland Security”).

Now if you want to hate Hillary Clinton, fine…that’s completely up to you – exercise this civil liberty while you still have it. As this anti-Hillary email claims, there is an under reporting of facts in this country, and sometimes alternative views are needed. Just make sure you check on an email before you perpetuate lies. If the email claims to have reputable sources and it doesn’t list them… chances are the story isn’t accurate.

Now if you want to perpetuate something that’s being under reported, how ‘bout how the American People have been lied to about the Military Intelligence that lead us into this war with Iraq in the first place:

The following is a link to the Downing Street Memo that was leaked to the British Press prior to the recent election for Prime Minister. It states that Bush and the CIA were doctoring the evidence around their WMD excuse for war and he – as well as the rest of this administration knew ALL ALONG that Sadam had no Weapons of Mass Destruction. We were lied to.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2087-1593607,00.html

Now, if you want to be pissed off about the disservice this country is doing to the troops, be pissed off about this. If you want to do something about supporting the troops and making this nation stronger, turn off Fox News/ Rush Limbaugh, Start watching C-span, Take that stupid yellow ribbon magnet off your SUV, and start voting for Democrats.

Open your eyes to what is going on people…
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Maclilly Donating Member (97 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 02:22 PM
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8. This is garbage
Hillary in fact did meet with the Gold Star Mothers in private. It would be the Republicans who won't meet with these people because the Repubs don't want to know what is going on or talk to any families who don't swallow their BS lines about military support.
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