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sistersofmercy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 10:37 PM
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OK, I agree with AL Franken, completely!!!!!!!!!
I used to believe Georgie Boy was a nitwit surrounded by evil doers but now I truly believe he is just as guilty, if not more so.
Franken wrote, "I think we are all too ready to blame Karl Rove, or Dick Cheney, or Ari Fleischer, or Gale Norton, or Donald Rumsfeld, or John Ashcroft when this administration does something despicable. When South Carolinians get push polls saying John McCain fathered an illegitimate black child, you know Karl Rove had something to do with it. But it's really Bush."

I've been dissecting speeches of Georgie et al, the truth, only Cheney has made the links everyone is talking about, not Junior, Rummy, or Rice. They have magnificently played a word association game with the public. Georgie knows exactly what he's doing.

However, I still believe the cards need to fall in the proper order.
I would have liked to see Rummy go first but I'll settle for Cheney.
Rummy's next.

"...Barbara Bush's son. And I'm through with him."
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Twillig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 10:56 PM
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1. Vision Thing
"Another motherfucker in a motorcade!"

Ignorance/stupidity been their greatest defense. The "liberal" media has been making excuses for pretzel-dunce all along. Same as they did for Reagan.

Anything that gang of thugs has done has been done with the approval, before or after the fact, of that douchebag.


The buck stops only one place.
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sistersofmercy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 11:15 PM
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3. Absolutely, Vision Thing! Hello SoM fan!
Although, I'm listening to The Smiths at the moment!

We've got their number!
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TennesseeWalker Donating Member (925 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 10:58 PM
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2. I'm through with Barbara's Son as well.
I'm sick of all the Republicans and their backward bullshit. I don't want this country to return to the 1950s. In fact, I think we need to redesign our entire society. It's time to move on. The world is in trouble, and nothing lasts forever. Let's try something else.
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sistersofmercy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 11:18 PM
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4. Republicans just can't be trusted in office!!!
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Clete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 11:28 PM
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8. I think that it's beyond that.
Republicans are not patriotic Americans. They don't respect the Constitution except as a convenient method of getting what they want because they know everyone else is honor bound to do so. I think they are a rogue institution that needs to be investigated for treason.
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sistersofmercy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 11:36 PM
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11. I guess I was just trying to be diplomatic but you are correct they
are corrupt and guilty of circumventing our Constitution and Geneva Conventions.
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Cat Atomic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 11:19 PM
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5. I still think he's a prop, personally.
Edited on Thu Sep-18-03 11:20 PM by Cat Atomic
I'm sure he's vaguely involved in the politics, and probably a participant in policy moves, but I still think his advisors are really the ones running the show.

The real test of it will be whether or not he disappears from public view after his presidency, as Reagan did. People with actual involvement seem to hang around on the public scene, like Carter, Clinton, even Bush Sr.

Props disappear. I think Dubya will disappear.
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sistersofmercy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 11:22 PM
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6. Go find the thread where I'm showing the vague language of Georgie.
I'll see if I can find it. I'll reply to it to bring to 1st page.
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sistersofmercy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 11:27 PM
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7. It's the Bush: Saddam/ Al Qaeda link
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Cat Atomic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 11:36 PM
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12. You mean Bush's subtle suggestions that Saddaam= Al Qaeda?
Edited on Thu Sep-18-03 11:39 PM by Cat Atomic
I'm sorry- I'm tired this evening, so if I've misunderstood your point, I apologize.

One thing about Bush that's always been pretty clear to me is that he is not a good speaker. He's absolutely horrible at it. He can barely string a sentence together.

I think real rhetorical subtlety is beyond his grasp. Don't you think these statements were written for him?
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sistersofmercy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 11:47 PM
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13. Yes, I do! But think just b/c someone's public speaking ability is...
(well should I be nice) more than lacking, that somehow they don't understand what they read! Remember Georgie's business failures weren't necessarily failures for him.
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sistersofmercy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 11:49 PM
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14. Sorry, that's "don't think..."
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 11:30 PM
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9. First, Franken is BRILLIANT! Second, by thy friends art thou known.
All those other scumbuckets are there for one reason: BECAUSE BUSHIE PUT 'EM THERE!!! HE had to assemble his cabinet and all those folks around him, advising him up one side of the room and down the other. Why would he surround himself with people who don't agree with him (except of course, the "pitiable Colin Powell," as Greg Palast calls him)? Those people are there because HE invited them to the table. They would not be there if Gore were in the White House. They would probably not be there if McCain were in the White House. They're there because of bush.

He's stupid, alright, but he knows what he likes.
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Cat Atomic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 11:34 PM
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10. But they're daddy's guys.
Edited on Thu Sep-18-03 11:38 PM by Cat Atomic
His advisors are more closely linked to his father than to him, really. I mean- Rumsfeld in the Reaga/Bush administration, Colin Powell... Bush Sr... Cheney, of course...

I guess he could've picked them, too. Hmm. I dunno. It's always smelled more like a Reagan Administration, Mk. II to me. A s talking head that acts as a public spokesman for a greater collection of influential people.
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Isome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-03 12:01 AM
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16. Don't forget:
Condoleeza tha' skeeza and on the periphery of this administration, there's James Baker, the 2000 election spinner, who was in his daddy's administration, too.
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Evanstondem Donating Member (306 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-03 12:03 AM
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17. HIs Guys Are Even Worse Than His Daddy's
There's Cheney and Rumsfeld but also Rove, Ashcroft and a host of second tier people with background such as Iran contra and anti-Clinton conspiracies.
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sistersofmercy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-03 12:06 AM
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18. That's right but it doesn't mean he doesn't know what he's doing...
He's playing along.
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sistersofmercy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 11:55 PM
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15. Absolutely, the players were picked by the captain! He's devious not
stupid.
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