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ailsagirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-05 09:05 AM
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Anyone have strong feelings one way or the other about Bolton's
Edited on Sat May-14-05 09:10 AM by ailsagirl
nomination? Will he be appointed ambassador to U.N. despite the flak?

I, for one, think he will. It pains me to write that but it seems that the rethugs get their way-- just about every time.

I hope I'm wrong.
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mikehiggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-05 09:13 AM
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1. I don't think it really matters
After a fake war with real casualties in defiance of world opinion I don't think we will improve our national image if we sent Mother Teresa to the UN as our rep.

I'd like to see Delay go to the UN instead. At least that way we'd get him the hell out of Congress.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-05 09:16 AM
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3. Sadly, Mike, I agree with you
Who we send to the UN is unimportant. The only way to affect world opinion of us is to change the leadership in this country. Until these asshats leave office, no one will deal with us with anything other than fear and loathing.

Like ya say, Mother Theresa couldn't make a difference.
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-05 09:19 AM
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6. IT really does matter. Bolton's job is to force the UN to vote on sanction
on Iran. When whomever vetoes the resolution the NeoCon's song will be 'See we have to go it alone again. The UN is forcing us to act alone to counter this grave threat.' Book mark this note and check it this June.
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-05 09:23 AM
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7. How can he force them to vote any given way?
I think he will be isolated and not at all popular. The world at large does not take kindly to being bullied by the USA. I think his appointment will do nothing but harm our stance in the eyes of the world if that is even possible.
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-05 09:37 AM
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9. He can insist on language he knows they will not support
For example If I wanted to 'Force' a no vote in the Fundies church I would include language like "Everyone will enjoy equal opportunity to join our church; including Gay and Lesbian regardless of sexual orientation; because we are all God's children and God loves us all."
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-05 10:03 AM
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12. Oh, it will matter -- Bolton will make it much, much worse.
So bad that perhaps by 2006 even Americans will notice. It needs to be an issue in the Congressional campaigns.
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-05 09:15 AM
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2. Barbara Boxer put a hold on it
until we get the Intel we requested. If Condi doesn't think it is relevant she needs to look at who decides such things. Hint it ain't Condi. :wow:
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Ruffhowse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-05 09:18 AM
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4. I think he'll be approved, and I'm not that concerned about it. It's just
one more psycho Bush appointee to make a fool of themselves and turn more people away from the Republicans. He will self destruct in the UN, and pull Bush down a few notches when he does.
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Poiuyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-05 09:30 AM
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8. I'm concerned about it
Bush is making a mockery of the UN. He is thumbing his nose at the rest of the world. While some Americans like that tough stance, Our bad image to the rest of the world is hurting tourism and other similar industries.

Unfortunately, I'm guessing Bolton will be approved. Lieberman will defect to the other side. It may come down to Cheney casting the tie-breaking vote.
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-05 09:19 AM
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5. I have strong feelings about it
It's bully foreign policy. Speak loudly and hit people with a big stick if they don't do what you tell them too. Drives me nuts.

Our foreign policy is based on telling other nations what to do and when to do it, with no respect for any other nation!

Bryant
check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-05 09:44 AM
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10. As long John Bolton is supervised by Condi I see no big problem

Group sex? Count me in!
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-05 10:01 AM
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11. Despite everything, it's leaning his way.
We'll know before long.
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-05 10:04 AM
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13. I'm strongly opposed. He wants to sabotage the UN, and although...
...I appreciate that lots of people don't want to defer US FP decision-making to the UN, the UN is obviously the only hope the world has for peace.

Bolton is clearly a big step in the direction of war without end in order to create the environment within which Republican can keep winning elections, and that's kind of frightening.
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