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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-05 09:48 PM
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Why I asked for a Special Counsel to Exmn Torture & Prison Abuse Scandals
Edited on Sat May-14-05 09:52 PM by paineinthearse
JC does it again, God bless this man!

http://www.conyersblog.us/default.htm

Why I asked for a Special Counsel to Examine the Torture and Prison Abuse Scandals
New Election Reform Op-ed published

Those of you who regularly read Raw Story know that on Friday, 50 House colleagues and I wrote to Attorney General Gonzales asking him to appoint a special counsel to investigate prisoner abuse and torture in Iraq, Guantanamo and Afghanistan. The story has also been picked up by Voice of America, and of course Buzzflash, and web publications based in Germany, France, Canada, and Italy, but unfortunately -- though not surprisingly -- has not been covered by the so-called “mainstream media” in our own country as of yet.

I initiated this letter a few weeks ago, when it became clear that the entire abuse scandal which began with the release of the horrific abuse photos at Abu Ghraib, had played itself out through a variety of white wash reports and investigations, and the prosecution of a few low ranking soldiers. If ever there were a clear cut case of criminal wrongdoing, conflicts of interest, and the need for independent public review this was it. Citizens of America and the world were calling out for accountability, yet neither the Bush Administration nor the GOP Congress had undertaken a single credible and independent investigation. It took me several weeks to gather the signatures, and by the time I did, it became more clear than ever that independent review was needed in the wake of the most recent allegations against U.S. military personnel concerning possible desecration of the Koran.

Many people ask me why I pursue these inquiries, when the Administration is unlikely to accept them. I have several responses.

– First, there is a chance, however remote, that they will do the right thing. Although Mr Aschcroft did not see fit to appoint a single special counsel during his tenure, including clear cut conflicts involving Enron, Haliburton and Westar, there is always the chance that Mr. Gonzales will actually fairly apply the law (as Ms. Reno did quite frequently under President Clinton).

– Second, even if they refuse, there is at least an element of accountability. When I see abuses, I can choose to either shrug my shoulders and regret that Gore or Kerry was not elected (at least not officially), or I can call the Administration to task so that their failure to undertake an investigation or respond to an inquiry constitutes yet another element of their abuse of power. While the Administration frequently does ignore the requests of a single congressman, it is significantly more difficult to ignore the requests of 50 or 80 congressional representatives.

– Third, by publicizing the wrongdoing, it helps educate the public, who in turn can provide me and the media with additional information that can help further congressional and public understanding. Simply by reading responses to these posts I have been apprized of much critical information that has helped further my understanding, and in turn has led to further inquiries.

Finally, on an unrelated note, I have not given up on voting reform. TomPaine.com - http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x3658294 - has my most recent editorial concerning the shame of our nation's continuing failure to ensure that every vote counts.


Blogged by JC on 05.14.05 @ 10:23 PM ET
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izzybeans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-05 09:59 PM
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1. And again you have an eye for the story.
:hi:
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-05 10:16 PM
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3. I've been away for 48 hours
Just posting the "low hanging" fruit.
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izzybeans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-05 10:29 PM
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4. You've missed quite the 48 hours. The low hanging fruit is more edible
Edited on Sat May-14-05 10:29 PM by izzybeans
than the unfortunate contagion these days. When you reach the high end let me know.
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-05 10:33 PM
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5. I'm on a personal high, close to burn out.
How much higher can I get? In a nutshell met and heard speeches by Ted Kennedy, Howard Dean, Deval Patrick, Michael Dukakas, Ed Markey, Michael Capuano, Jim McGovern and a few others.

Besides that, just a normal day in MassaBLUEsetts.
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-05 10:35 PM
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6. Now, will someone please read the post at ......
Edited on Sat May-14-05 10:36 PM by paineinthearse
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x3658294

It's equally important, but sunk to page 2 with no replies in 20 minutes.

Edited: 40 minutes.
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izzybeans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-05 10:42 PM
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8. You might post this as a response to your OP as well.
Edited on Sat May-14-05 10:43 PM by izzybeans
On edit: to the greatest page with two posts with that thread says the DU. I'm not sure that happens that often. Hopefully it gets the attention it deserves.
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izzybeans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-05 10:36 PM
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7. Wow was this a sole event. That would have been worth the trip up.
Good for you!
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atommom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-05 10:00 PM
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2. Thanks for posting. I'm so glad we have this man on our side!
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-05 10:49 PM
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9. Don't thank me, thank Rep. Conyers
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-15-05 02:08 AM
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10. Is this a victim of the "front page phenomenon"?
See G-j's question.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=3658933&mesg_id=3658933

After an initial flurry of interests and nominations, found this on page 3 with no replies in over a couple hours.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-15-05 02:18 AM
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11. TV coverage of "abuse",
What nost Amerikans saw on TV was actually mild. The execs picked the least brutal "abuse" and the Pentagon got them to hold off for two weeks while the rebutal and cover-up was worked on. The DOD has the brutal photos and Vids that a few in Congress saw before the over 1K lot was whisked out never to be seen again by anyone. The Taguba report of 2K pages was only 1K to Congress. the excuse was that the other 1K were accidentally not copied. Those 1K pages never did arrive at Congress and prolly never will.

The widespread torture, ghost detainees and secret prisons are still not being investigated. This entire situation stinks of Cover-up.
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-15-05 08:55 AM
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12. John Conyers deserves a better DU reception than this
Maybe I posted it too late at night.

:kick:
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-15-05 09:08 AM
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13. Thak you for this post. Sometimes DU actually cheers me up
Knowing that such a man as Rep John Conyers reads sites such as Buzzflash and Raw Story is very heartening. I love Gore's internet...
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-15-05 09:10 AM
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14. Not only does he read those sites,
...he works WITH them. AND, he posts this kind of great information at his blog and at the HJC (democrats) website.
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izzybeans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-15-05 10:01 AM
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15. Kick-hey its been of 1/2 an hour
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-15-05 11:47 AM
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16. Kick! nt
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-15-05 11:51 AM
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17. I appreciate those words
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izzybeans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-15-05 01:08 PM
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18. Let's give you a nudge right on up there....hmmmph
there you go.
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