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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 08:31 PM
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Newsweek and the Bushco. News Media ENDGAME STRATEGY
The Newsweek fiasco is all part of the the Bushco. strategy to discredit and then ultimately control and censor all the US media.

This whole thing is a set up so that Bushco. can now charge Newsweek and the news media in general as being irresponsible and dangerous. This will allow them to "reluctantly" propose that the gov't MUST step in and curb these dangerous "abuses" of press freedom. This will lead to Bushcos ultimate control and censorship of ALL US news and media for the "good" of everyone and for "security" reasons. After all, the Newsweek story is now "responsible" for marring the US image abroad and directly responsible for people dying and the recent eruptions of violence and therefore they are a security threat and must be monitored.

Just watch as rightwing blowhards now call for stricter control and monitoring of ALL news outlets.
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 08:41 PM
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1. But But wait. What about that dusty old rag, you know the thing I am
talking about: Oh yeah The Constitution. They can make no laws restricting the Free Press. Do you need the exact quote?


AMMENDMENTS TO
THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION


----------------------------------------------------------------------

1st Amendment
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;

or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press;

or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

How 'active' does the judge be to ignore that?
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 08:43 PM
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2. LOL!!!!
Like that matters to them? What are you, one of those terrorist supporting liberals or something? :sarcasm:
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 08:57 PM
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5. I don't doubt that is their ENDGAME STRATEGY
But like all of aWoL's plans to date it has no possibility of succeeding. The Miserable Failure couldn't find oil in the Permian basin.
:sarcasm: That is like not being able to find a Prostitute in a NV Whore House with a hand full of Benjamin's and a pocket full of coke. :sarcasm:

I do not disagree that may be their plan. But we have seen how often reality has failed to conform to their 'PLAN":crazy:
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 09:02 PM
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6. Really?
Edited on Mon May-16-05 09:03 PM by Beetwasher
I don't know about that. It all depends upon what their REAL plans are as opposed to what YOU think their plans are.

For example, the Iraq invasion from the perspective of what they SAID their plans were is a complete disaster. However, if their REAL plans were to throw the region into chaos so they could steal billions from the US treasury via Halliburton under the chaotic cover of war, then I'd say they're plan succeeded quite well.

So far, as far as controlling the media, I'd say they're also doing quite well.
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 09:20 PM
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9. Yes. Michael Parenti has a great talk on this. We call them morons because
their actions fail their words. Meanwhile they are laughing all the way to the bank.

We all need to look at what they do, not what they say. Good post.
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 09:22 PM
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10. The plan for IRAQ was to put Saddam out of the picture with their
Overwhelming Might and Shock and Awe the Whole Middle East. Then to pump like hell and drive down oil prices thus destroying OPEC. Then proceed to destroy any country or region that threatened them economically or Militarily. That is the plan at the PNAC site and it is not going according to plan. They wanted to be done in stabilizing Iraq and moving on to Iran by June. Too Bad.
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 09:26 PM
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12. Then Why The Permanent Military Bases???
Edited on Mon May-16-05 09:30 PM by Beetwasher
LOWER oil prices, are you joking??? They LOVE the high oil prices! They're oil men! They make TONS of money when the oil prices are high!

No, sorry, I disagree. They've accomplished a great deal in Iraq that they wanted to. They've put the US on permanent war footing, they are establishing a permanent military presence in the ME and oil prices are through the roof so they are making TONS of money AND they get to rob the US treasury blind in the process. It may not have gone perfectly, but for they have achieved much of their main objectives.
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 09:33 PM
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13. The permanent bases were because he is getting pressure to get
US forces out of Saudi Arabia. The Permanent Bases are to protect the Conquered oil fields and to be used to project force thru out the Middle East. The Plan is for a permanent state of War. They want to spread hate and discontent to every corner of the world. In short they are evil psychopaths.
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 09:35 PM
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14. Indeed, So They Were Successful
They've accomplished that. The don't see all the deaths and chaos they've created in the region as a problem. That is not how they measure success. By their measure, they've been quite successful.
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 09:42 PM
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18. They have not conquered Iraq. Iraq is producing less oil than it was
before the invasion. They have succeeded is stirring the shit up and raping the treasury but not successful in projecting force thru out the Middle East. In fact the US has a lot less capacity to force it's will on the world by a long way. They can not even secure the road from Baghdad to the airport. There are major elements disastrously wrong with the plan. It is falling apart. If and when they attack Iran our forces in the Middle East will be a stain on the ground.
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 09:49 PM
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19. You're Still Looking At This From A Rational Perspective and From Your Own
idea of what you think they wanted to accomplish. Yes, if they wanted to stabilize and secure Iraq, they've failed. If they wanted to use the Iraq invasion as a cover to steal billions, they've succeeded. It's my contention that THAT was actually their intended goal. You disagree, I got it. That's cool, but I think you're wrong. I don't think they give a shit about a stable Iraq or the road to Baghdad, or anything like that. That would mean they care about the security of our troops and the Iraqi's, they don't so those things are irrelevant.

As far as future endeavors (invasions), well, that's what drafts are for, or nuclear weapons, etc. They don't care that the world is a more dangerous place for the US. As a matter of fact, that's likely part of their plan. Another terror attack means they get to consolidate their power even more and start up a draft.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 09:55 PM
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22. I agree.. It was a necessary task.. to transfer "wealth" in our treasury
into the accounts of Bush supporters.. The tax cuts for the rich (payday-loans for the lower classes) were parts one and two..but there was still enough money so that corporations like Bechtel,Halliburton,KBR etc could "pump up their worth"..The safest way to funnel money to "war companies" is to start a war.. If the public is fearful, they will not notice or even car if their taxes are being used to "keep them safe"..

Treasury looted, it becomes easier and easier to dismantle the sopcial programs at home, and consolidate the economy as an "all guns, no butter" economy..

Mission almost accomplished..

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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-05 09:45 AM
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45. My idea of what they want to accomplish is what they said they
Edited on Tue May-17-05 09:50 AM by Vincardog
wanted to accomplish. Have you ever heard of the PNAC? If not
visit <http://www.newamericancentury.org/> They laid out their plans in 1999.
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-05 09:50 AM
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46. I Know, But When Have They Ever Told The Truth?
Of course I've heard of PNAC. What makes you think that's what they REALLY want to accomplish? PNAC is the cover for their REAL goal; pillaging. PNAC is treatise on US security. Do you really think they CARE about US security??? If you believe PNAC, then you believe that though their ideas are misguided and wrong, they are really only trying to protect US interests. I don't believe that. They are out to line their pockets.

Actions speak louder than words.
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jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 09:54 PM
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21. That's how you get things done. Chaos is a great cover for evil.
And the military contracts make them richer than you can even imagine.
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-05 08:32 AM
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33. Yes. Funny. Osama's wish was granted, too.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-05 08:35 AM
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34. They wanted control of the Iraqi oil to make prices HIGHER not lower.
They're lining their pockets as we speak.
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 09:25 PM
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11. I love a clever analogy..
.... and yours takes the prize for today :)
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 10:53 PM
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26. On a night like tonight
this is a slap in the face:

"That is like not being able to find a Prostitute in a NV Whore House with a hand full of Benjamin's and a pocket full of coke."

This is a real discussion killer. The subject ("retraction" of the Newspeak story) is so important tonight, the OP was interesting and within a seconds the thread is yanked into a hardy-har-har Twilight Zone where women either don't exist or don't matter.

This is a perfect example of the kind of embedded misogynist attitudes that fester on DU and limit the dialogue.

It's always a shock when this baldfaced bigotry shoots up out of otherwise interesting comments. It creates the impression that the posters are ignorant, no matter what intriguing political opinions they may have to offer.

We'll never know.

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slor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 08:56 PM
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4. I read somewhere that many Americans are...
cool with censorship of the media. No doubt that they are the same idiots that voted for the chimp, but still, who would have guessed so many people could be this stupid?
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 09:16 PM
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8. 9/11 changed everything
:crazy:
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jus_the_facts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 08:47 PM
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3. Ahh I wouldn't doubt it for a second.....
....amazing how much information there is to absorb over the internet alone...yet their illusions already in place have worked wonders to their advantage...sigh. :evilfrown:

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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 09:14 PM
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7. First Discredit, Then Claim It's Dangerous, Then Control and Censor
All in the name of "Security"...

Just watch.

:hi:
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 09:38 PM
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15. BushCo doesn't need to restrict the Lame Stream Media
Most of the LSM is already only a propoganda arm of the Regime. The rest will be intimidated to fall in line.
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 09:40 PM
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16. Not Enough For Them
That would never be enough for them. No, they would want direct control. There are still too many loose ends. Fascists can't STAND loose ends or things that are not completely under their control. Just doesn't fit their M.O.
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nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-05 12:50 AM
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27. The M.O. of a control freak fits nice
Try this :-)

Must You Control Everything?
by Paul Thomas, The Thomas Group / Apr 2004

(snip)(near bottom)
However, remember that being controlling is not something a person can change overnight; but, by continually working on the change, it will happen. It might also be worthwhile for the “control freak” to read on to see what is suggested for the individuals who have to deal with persons who have a controlling nature. Some of these coping tips might also help the controlling individuals understand how their behavior affects others. In her paper, “The Top 10 Ways to Survive a Control Freak” Susan Dun, MA Clinical Psychology, states, “The inner dynamic is someone in this conversation must lose: and that’s one of the keys – it’s nothing personal though it still drives us nuts.” While it’s hard to remember this at the time of irritation, it is definitely something to keep in the back of our minds. Other suggestions include:


• Understand the dynamics of their behavior. While they may be making you feel incompetent or untrustworthy, what they are doing is trying to manage their own anxiety.
• They’ll put a lot more energy into it than you will, or might want to. If it appears they are fighting for their life, in a sense they are – their sense of self and well-being depends upon not relinquishing control.
• This dynamic requires that in order to feel good about themselves, they must put you down. When interacting with them, stay calm and centered.
• Notice how they’re trying to make you feel, it’s called an induced feeling. Notice it, be aware of it, and know that you don’t have to accept it.
• Control freaks are adept at distorting reality. Remain steadfast in what you know to be the truth.
• What they’re angry and afraid of is a world they perceive dislikes them (guess why?). Treat them with respect and you’ll be able to respect yourself.
• Let them control the agenda… You control the pace. This may calm them. You don’t want to play their game.
• You may see them rapidly cycle through some predictable stages. Again, stand steadfast and don’t let them draw you into their cycle.
• Understand there’s little you can do. It’s their compulsive behavior; this means it repeats with or without validation, whether it works or not. If you find you really can’t deal with it, then you will need to withdraw from the situation before it begins to affect your behavior.
• They can’t change (without help)…the anxiety is too high and the reasons not conscious. This behavior is not rational; if they did “win,” they wouldn’t notice it … they must do what they’re doing and you’re just there.


I hope this short essay has helped in some small way those of you who are either having a controlling problem or those of you who are having to cope with such an individual. As I said at the beginning, there is an enormous amount of information on the subject available and this article can only touch on this issue.
(snip)
http://www.mdpublishing.com/MedicalDealer/Editorials/PaulThomas/04/Apr.htm
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jus_the_facts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 10:47 PM
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25. I'd rather not watch it happen.....
....no cable or satellite installed here...I'll have to see it unfold on DU if I'm still allowed on the internets. x(

:hi: Baby...how's 'bout them Yankees! :evilgrin:
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-05 08:52 AM
Response to Reply #25
35. I Don't Blame You!
Edited on Tue May-17-05 08:52 AM by Beetwasher
It's painful and frightening to see it happening...

Yanks are looking better! :hi:
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jus_the_facts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-05 11:24 AM
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48.  I'm not frightened...
.....fear is the mind killer....I decided long ago I wouldn't allow m'self to be afraid anylonger...so I refuse to watch much tv anymore...refuse to PAY for that manipulation first and foremost...my amazing powers of observation are sharper without the constant bombardment of talking heads blatherin' on the idiot box! ;-)
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NAO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 09:41 PM
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17. They'll use Orwellian language - e.g. "White House Media Relations Teams"
and "State Department Fact Checking" and "Department of Reporting Integrity" or they might even have the temerity to call it "Media Reform".

They won't just come out and say "we are limiting freedom of the press". That wouldn't fly. They will try to use doublespeak and PC language and PR tactics to pull it off as something that will benefit all of us and help us by protecting us from dangerous journalistic loose cannons.
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 09:49 PM
Response to Reply #17
20. Yup, You Got It
n/t
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 10:03 PM
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23. We need for the media outlets
to have "stricter control" over themselves and not be influenced by the BOTTOM LINE all the time.

They need to stop bending over and acting like mediawhores!
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necso Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 10:13 PM
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24. Nota bene,
the following rant does not argue that we should ignore further inroads into press freedoms. (And, yes, the neocons wish to control all information flow -- and, yes, they are constantly pushing towards that end.) On the contrary, we must do all that we can to start the pendulum moving back in the other direction -- towards freer, more open and honest, and more useful, traditional media. But traditional media has already failed in its duties. And for some time hence we must search other sources for real, useful information, that is, if we are not to be left (put) "in the dark".

...

That particular game was lost a long time ago,

at least insofar as traditional mass media is concerned. -- It has been a long time since "users" of this sort of media had enough useful information available to them (from these sources alone, anyway) to reach an effective understanding of the world around them.

Sure there are some tidbits. But these tidbits are lost in an avalanche of useless, distorted, perverted, de-valued "information", that is often crudely-manipulative disinformation of the most insidious kind (or titillation of some kind) ... And it can hardly be expected that the average citizen will be able to sort out the wheat from the chaff -- he does not have the "eyes" to see the difference (a glaring "omission" in his education, I would say) -- and, besides, there is a lot more chaff. -- And how can a person whose very lifestyle is driven by marketing (to his weaknesses) be expected to resist when the same techniques are used (exploiting these same -- and his other weaknesses) to manage his "politics", "worldview" and "beliefs" (etc).

So it is that those who do have the "eyes" (to sort out the wheat) recognize, even in the traditional media, enough of the truth to become further enraged, while at the same time many others see nothing of the truth, or see only "differences of opinion", or see nothing (new and useful) that they can integrate into their belief systems (which they can be expected to be slow (and loathe) to change much) -- or even see the real truth as lies (but who isn't most inclined to believe what gets most exposure -- and reinforcement).

Of course, the neocons are doing their (unlevel -- and evil) "best" to see that this remains the case -- and they have almost all of (that) traditional media as their partner in doing so -- if only in that virtually all (even of the "best") traditional media "outlets" (those with mass "usership", at least) have far too little useful information in them, and far too much worthless bullshit... and far too much of that cruel poison of the neocons, crude manipulation of people's minds (to some neocon end) -- a poison cruel, inevitably and intentionally cruel, in its effects if "swallowed".
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RBHam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-05 12:52 AM
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28. You nailed it....
Only trouble is, who's going to stop them?

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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-05 06:37 AM
Response to Reply #28
29. Kick!
:kick:
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-05 06:42 AM
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30. and another terror event would gel it altogether nicely
something to 'pull us all together'
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-05 08:24 AM
Response to Reply #30
31. Yup, And It Seems All Their Actions Are BEGGING For Another Attack
They are literally asking for it.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-05 08:30 AM
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32. That is the end result..
whether it is part of their "strategy" or not. But they are opportunistic enough to take advantage of the situation, regardless.
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ElectroPrincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-05 09:19 AM
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38. Yes, but they will not appreciate the results of a second attack ...
Edited on Tue May-17-05 09:20 AM by ElectroPrincess
As I've typed before Bush Co. has used up all it's "Terror Points." Heaven forbid - if we were struck again, instead of resolve, most people will sink into a state of depression, i.e., learned helplessness.

They've frightened the American people too many times with their Keystone Cops' Color Chart and Duck Tape warnings. You can only frighten the masses so much before they first, turn inward, and finally lash out at the people who have been instilling this horrid sense of fear upon them.

These folks in power need to temper their haranguing because if they posture too much, even the moderate republicans will long for the days of Clinton.

The American people are saturated with acts of posturing and bravado, as well as our recent past's terror warnings. Such manipulation by our government can NOT succeed forever, with or without more homeland attacks. Even the freepers are capable of reaching *terror* burn-out.
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-05 10:35 AM
Response to Reply #38
47. The Public Reaction Is Of No Concern To Them
If another attack happens, public reaction will be irrelevant because the Iron Boot will be firmly planted on everyone's neck. They will brook no dissent after the next attack.
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-05 09:19 AM
Response to Reply #32
39. I Think It's Clear That it is Part of a Pattern/Plan
Edited on Tue May-17-05 09:21 AM by Beetwasher
Perhaps some part of it is opportunistic, but it's opportunity within a definite plan of discrediting the news media. But I also would not rule out an out and out set up, not only w/ Newsweek, but CBS as well.
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kaitykaity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-05 09:10 AM
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36. Well, Rove bagged a network anchor and now he's
nailed a major news magazine.

It's not as if the MSM were ever doing any real reporting
anyeay. Their corporate masters kept all of the important
stuff either out completely or found some way to distract
with terra alerts on bad news for Bush days.

But now the chill is in the air. The afraid of their own
shadow whores will really make the effort now to toe the
company line.

End results the same.

What memo?


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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-05 09:18 AM
Response to Reply #36
37. Well, Unfortunately, CBS and Newsweek Were Two Of The
better outlets relatively speaking, which isn't saying much these days though, I guess...So he's picked his targets carefully...

But the story is NOT over. The calls for gov't monitoring of news outlets will increase, just watch.
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kaitykaity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-05 01:40 PM
Response to Reply #37
49. I'm still a believer in my sig, about how no
sophisticated proponent of repression would shatter the
facade of democratic institutions.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-05 09:26 AM
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40. Beet, check this out
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-05 09:32 AM
Response to Reply #40
42. Thanks!
n/t
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sunnystarr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-05 09:31 AM
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41. I think it's more simple than what you present ...
Bushco via Rove has already effectively muzzled the MSM/Corporate media. What was left were government officials and employees who are aghast at what they see going on. They know if they publicly expose anything they will lose their jobs. However they want the American people to know what's happening and so they talk to reporters off the record. Rove wanted this to stop. Whether or not he set up Newsweek as Rather was set up isn't clear. At the very least he grabbed the opportunity to castrate those officials by intimidating, pressuring, and frightening any news organization/reporter out of printing or reporting anything that comes from an unnamed government official/employee.

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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-05 09:35 AM
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43. Actually, The "Unnamed Gov't Officials" Were Rove's Idea
They love using the "Unnamed Gov't Official", it allows them to lie w/ impunity and then retract it making the publication look foolish and disreputable w/out any flak falling on the "unnamed gov't official". No, this is clearly (IMO) a strategy w/ the intent of taking gov't control of the news media to the next level, beyond simple intimidation to outright monitoring, control and censorship all in the name of "security".
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triguy46 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-05 09:38 AM
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44. No reason to doubt this
The neocons have promoted propaganda as a way of telling the world how good we are when we destroy their cities. The truth is the first victim...
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cestpaspossible Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-05 01:47 PM
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50. Yawn
I'm not yawning at the evil of Bushco, the challenges we face, the ongoing fight or anything like that. I'm yawning at your tired rhetoric.

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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 10:01 AM
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51. Huh?
Tired rhetoric, how so? What the fuck is your problem? You don't like it, don't click on it. Obviously it was meaningful enough for you to reply or are you just too stupid to stop yourself from replying to things you find boring and tired?
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