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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 09:06 PM
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Maybe when 10,000 American troops die, people will pay attention.
Edited on Mon May-16-05 09:26 PM by Bouncy Ball
Right? 10,000? Will that be the magic number?

Or will it take more?

God knows I know too many Americans who don't give a shit about the loss of Iraqi life, because that's already sky-high and climbing.

But maybe that many American lives will do it. It's kind of sad when you've reached a point in which you are wondering how much spilled American blood it will take to cause people to sit up and pay attention. Is that what happened with Vietnam? In the early years, did people warn?
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 09:08 PM
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1. as long as Americans can drive SUVs and buy crap at Wal-Mart
they really don't seem to care
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 09:10 PM
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2. I've stopped believing there is a number.


Too many Americans believe they'll be attacked by terrorists...if not for the war on terorrism...so they'll take the deaths as long as they can tell themselves it keeps them safe.
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The Gunslinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 09:10 PM
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3. It will take a draft
As long as their sons and daughters are safe at home, Bush will continue to fight the bad guys far far away. A draft would change everything.
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paparush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 09:16 PM
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5. Here's What It Will Take
1. Draft

2. Gas prices hit $5.00/gallon

3. Wal Mart slashes its operating hours. Now open only on Weds from 1:45 pm to 7:18 p.m. (this might set it off by itself, but #1 and #2 seem key)

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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 09:13 PM
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4. Draft will be the tipping point.
Been there, done that.


We would still be in Viet Nam if it hadn't been for the draft and the uproar caused by being forced to go fight in an immoral, illegal, unwinnable, idiotic war.
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FloridaPat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 09:21 PM
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6. We really at 6,000-8,000 now. Few seem to care about truth and death.
There have been reports of mass graves of US service men. No one cares. It took 44,000 lives in Vietnam (am I right on this?). That didn't stop Vietnam - the protests did. And al the veterans joining the protests. After all, these people volunteered for the job. So their getting great experience!

Another thing a Canadian newspaper pointed out - all the mass murderers in the US in the last 30 years or so have been ex-military. Then you consider that the number of dead from Gulf War 1 is over 10,000 now thanks to what people think was exposure to DU - we'll be lucky to have less than 100,000 dead over this fiasco.
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 09:26 PM
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7. I added something on edit, but it took a while for me to post it,
sick kid. So I have to abandon this thread for the evening.

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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 09:27 PM
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8. At the rate we're going, it will take more.
Most of the super-patriot republicans still don't give a shit about dead soldiers.

Their Lord God Bush has decreed a culture war (for oil) and they will support the war as long as they don't have to fight it.

Of course, the military is in crisis mode with personnel. For some odd reason, not many people want to join up right now, including the super-patriot republicans. Maybe if the draft comes sooner, we can get out sooner.

But dead bodies alone don't seem to bother the super-patriots.
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pstans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 09:27 PM
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9. I think 3,000 will open some people's eyes
That is how many people dies in the 9/11 attacks. When that many innocent Americans die in a War based on lies, people will start to question the leadership.
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Todd B Donating Member (809 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 09:31 PM
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10. First the media actually has to do it's job:
Well, the media will actually have to do it's job and stop repeating the Bush lie that Iraq was involved in terrorism against the US/9-11 before that happens, sadly.
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bejammin075 Donating Member (302 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 09:34 PM
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11. Maybe when *'s policies require the deaths of
those who did NOT ever volunteer for US military service.
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corbett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 09:37 PM
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12. With KKKarl Governing The Truth, 10,000 Always Has Been The Tipping Point
John Bolton's nomination to be our ambassador in the UN is precisely so that we can invade Iran before our Iraq KIA number exceeds 10,000. That bloody number always has been the PR tipping point in my mind, especially now that the Pentagon has admitted that it kept track of civilian and insurgent casualty rates all along!
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meti57b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 09:40 PM
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13. We lost 58,000 in Vietnam. The only reason we got out was that we had to.
There were 2-3 million Vietnamese deaths.
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