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cornermouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-05 07:33 AM
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On NOW last night, Janet LaRue of Concerned Women for
America, stated that we used to have official state churches and appeared to think a return to this was an interesting idea.

Therefore, I propose that in view of the great variety of religious beliefs which exist in our country now,

a. we either designate each of the states with their own permanently govenment approved and supported, personal churches and beliefs or

b. we select a church of the month...or week...which will have our full support and attendance during that period of time and allow each church or religion to have our full support during that time period.

Needless to say, attendance and passing the plate is mandatory.
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Wapsie B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-05 07:55 AM
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1. Why doesn't she move to Utah
where they have a government approved religion already in place?
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cornermouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-05 08:26 AM
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5. She wants to make Utah, nationwide.
Like Molly Ivins said last night, Texas is ruled by a combination of theocracy and plutocracy which is now being taken nationwide.
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KG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-05 08:05 AM
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2.  when did america have official state churches?
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cornermouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-05 08:24 AM
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4. According to her, it was our early history.
Last night's transcript isn't up yet. As far as I"m concerned, LaRue set off a lot of alarm bells.
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KG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-05 08:28 AM
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6. gee, isn't state sponsored religion the reason the pilgrims ,etc, left
europe for america?
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cornermouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-05 08:52 AM
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11. Think about the puritans and their ideology.
Anyway, to my surprise, I found a website that says the nut will be debating Lisa Maatz on the Washington Journal tomorrow. I won't be watching her. I saw enough of her last night on NOW.
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bobbieinok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-05 06:54 PM
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18. but then MA Bay colony had a state church.....R Williams, Ann Hutchinson
Edited on Sat May-21-05 06:54 PM by bobbieinok
et al were forced to leave

at least 2 quakers were executed because they would not convert

learning about this years out of school really freaked me out

essentially, Puritans wanted religious freedom for themselves; but everyone else was supposed to agree with them or suffer the consequences

in VA, the state supported church was the Anglican Church....see Jefferson's writings on state and religion in regard to the Baptists
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Wapsie B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-05 08:49 AM
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9. Typical conservative revisionist history.
This goes along with the claim of this country being a Christian nation.
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liberalitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-05 08:49 AM
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10. Never.....In fact...
Edited on Sat May-21-05 08:51 AM by liberalitch
people came here and established their own churches in the wilderness....
Sometimes they were tolerant (quakers) and sometimes not (congregationalists). In fact when it looked in some communities that it was going that way.... people like Roger Williams (RI) and John Wheelwright (NH) went and formed more liberal, secular communities....
in places like Maryland (cecil calvert) Georgia (Oglethorpe), and later Virginia (statute for religious freedom) religious tolerance was the norm and the law.

On edit: so there!
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-05 08:54 AM
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13. Never
We never have. Notice how they love to rewrite history? It makes JFK's assisination ordeal look like child's play. Lie, cheat and steal to get your way. Even if it means everybody else be damned. Welcome to the new Amerika. Hitler must be proud from his hell.
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Maat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-05 06:47 PM
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16. Early on ... the individual states had official religions ..
the U.S. Government never did.

This went by the wayside relatively shortly after we became a nation (that darned 1st Amendment!).
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-05 08:07 AM
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3. Concerned Women for American
has ties to Rev. Moon.
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cornermouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-05 08:28 AM
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7. All I know about them is from reading the letters to the editor
that the local one writes and she's a loon.
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-05 08:43 AM
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8. I would suspect they're all a little loony.
Beverly La Haye -- Wife of Tim LaHaye, author and spokesperson for several Moon funded 'Christian' organizations, especially "Concerned Women For America". She, too, has been a public speaker for Moon functions. Another group is Womens Federation for World Peace, also headed by Beverly LaHaye and recipient of Moon funding. <"Unholy Alliances", Ibid.>

Timothy La Haye - "Well-known author, former pastor and educator Tim LaHaye was named by a Wheaton College institute as the most influential leader in the evangelical Christian movement. The institute named LaHaye the most influential evangelical leader in the United States of the last quarter century. He and his wife, Beverly, the leader of Concerned Women for America, have been a driving force in the organizational efforts of evangelicals, including the Moral Majority and the respected political think tank Council for National Policy. Other contenders for the distinction included renowned evangelist Billy Graham, Campus Crusade for Christ's Bill Bright and Focus on the Family's James Dobson." <"Tim LaHaye 'most influential leader', WorldNetDaily, June 2, 2001>

"Most famous for his 'Left Behind' series of books and movies. Tim LaHaye's relationship with Moon goes back at least 17 years. In 1985 as was reported earlier, LaHaye was addressing several hundred evangelical Christians. He exhorted that they would go willingly to jail with the Rev. Moon in demonstration to his imprisonment over tax fraud." <"Unholy Alliance", Part I>

http://www.solomonstemple.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=83
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-05 08:53 AM
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12. Doesn't Concerned WOMEN for America
have a MAN as its head?
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-05 08:55 AM
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14. Funny isn't it??
I'm sure he's really concerned for me, being a woman that is.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-05 09:08 AM
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15. i hate giving these critters a venue for their fantasies.
Edited on Sat May-21-05 09:09 AM by xchrom
it encourages the freepers -- they hear this stuff before they go to bed -- and wake up believing it's true.

no, there was never an authorized religion.
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Shoeempress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-05 06:52 PM
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17. Snake handlers, let's make that the religion of this country. That way
the "members" will dwindle pretty quickly.
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chaska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-05 07:11 PM
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19. I saw that. How do you know a pug is lying? They mouph be movin'.
Damned harpy faced bitch.
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