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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 10:06 AM
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To Sgt. Benderman and Monica

Dear Monica and Sgt.Benderman,
I am so very touched by your courage in telling the
truth..You both are a true heroes to me,like the soldiers who
told the truth about Abu Gharib.I hope if I ever have to stand
up against this monstrosity in power like you are doing,that I
do it as well as you two do. May the lure of empire die
unborn in the hearts of the elites as they get frogmarched to
stand trial in front of the entire world for war crimes..

My questions/comments:

OK it's clear to me atrocities and gross human rights
violations are happening in the Middle East and wherever else
Americans are.... kids are being shot,and there torture and
all sorts of other awful things being done in Afghanistan/Iraq
to the people there.I think these "insurgents" are for the
most part decent people defending their country and culture
from invading robber baron colonists,posing as a military,so
thoroughly this lie is that the grunts don't have a clue they
are being exploited....

How long until this becomes blow back?

I wrote an article called Military Morals on Unknown News,
http://www.unknownnews.org/031126a-up.html

And It got some responses.
http://www.unknownnews.net/d1205up3.html


In one Response a soldier wrote and said the soldiers around
him bragged about how loyal and obedient they were to their
commanders.That they'd shoot their own sister if they were
ordered to. This is scary. What percent in your observation of
soldiers have that kind of blind loyalty? How many routinely
don't ask questions of their superiors or their orders and
fail think about what they do when they do wrong and KNOW it
is wrong?
This cultivation of sociopaths in soldiers is what scares me
not only about the military but for the American people.

How to we stop the authoritarian climate that fosters bullying
and the very notion of a chain of command designed to absolve
an individual soldier of feeling the weight off his own
choices and conscience in combat situations when ordered to
commit atrocities, while it excuses the order givers at the
same time.If higher ups have no conscience after the lower downs give them warnings,why are the leaders exempted from accountability,and don't you think this will undermine morale and put our country in grave danger..this out of control"leader structure"caused by too much obedience to and fear of authority.

It's like the military is..at least for some soldiers ..almost
like one big huge ongoing Stanford experiment.
http://www.prisonexp.org /

It also has features of Stockholm syndrome..
http://ask.yahoo.com/ask/20030324.html

And it has features of abuse and trauma..
http://mentalhealth.about.com/od/traumaptsd /

Traumatized citizens are useful to people in power.
http://www.psychohistory.com /

I fear alot of soldiers get traumatized ,and suffer and do it
with silence until their conscience gets submerged.This is
deliberate.This Breaking down of a recruit and reprogramming him is what makes and efficient killing machine out of a human being.

People in power want one segment of the population traumatized fearful and manipulable and the other traumatized and guiltless(like sociopaths) This keeps social control going good enough but as what cost to all of us? And with all the Real Id's,RIFD chips and pain ful crowd control devices apparently the powerful are not satisfied with the level of domination over this world's people they already have..(which I think is way too much)
And the scary part is too many people seem unwilling or unable to stop and think about consequences before they act or support something or even open their mouth.

For the American people I see a similar and milder/slower form
of the same sorts of mind manipulations and threats etc going
on, because it's clear to me this push for father
figures,discipline,obedience and loyalty to symbolic authority
still overrides citizen conscience, self interest and common
sense for far too many citizens.

Any thoughts on this.

I fear the military owners(the privatized corporate military stuff, thats being mixed with US military,to avoid normal rules of war). People who want assassins and mercenaries seem to me to want soldiers with no conscience,deliberately they want them to have no guilt and
just obey orders.This is a VERY dangerous
game,http://www.unknownnews.net/031208a-up.html

What is it about war and the display of power causes this
trance that puts a recruits soul to sleep,until years later
after combat it hits him what he has done so he crawls into a
bottle to die? Can we take the dual edged tools of psy-ops and
train non-authoritarian people to use them skillfully against
the corrupt sociopath people in power that are manipulating
people to keep America loyal to them when most people when candidly asked in the right way mistrust power and readily admit politicians and powerful figures lie and they deserve no such trust?
Is it all cognitive dissonance?

What do you think..

Any thoughts on this stuff would be deeply appreciated.

Thank you,

Underground Panther in the Sky
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