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Melodybe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 08:07 PM
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What lasts longer news or art? Why Bushco can't win forever...
I was thinking about 1984 and Fahrenheit 451, about the rewriting of history and the burning of books, and then I felt a lot better.

Let me elaborate, since an opening like that does merit an explanation, I was thinking about how hard it would be for them to eliminate everything that talks about how evil they are. Thanks to the internet and thanks to technology it is virtually impossible for them to destroy every copy of Fahreheit 9/11, every dvd of Star Wars, South Park, the Chapelle Show, or the Daily Show (the DVD comes out in June). The music of Dylan, Eminem, Green Day, etc will be around forever. Millions of Anti-Bush books have been published, bought and sold. Pop culture might be littered with junk but it is also full of art that likes to point out that Bushco is evil.

They will never completely wipe us out as I had feared because the big corporations that publish books, record music, make television and movies are too greedy and have mass produced anything that they think will sell, even if it is anti-Bush. If they started cracking down, we have the technology in our homes to recreate all of it, books, CDs, DVDs, etc.

In a hundred years the only thing that people will remember about the US corporate media of the early 21st Century is that they were an enemy to the people and enabled horrible tyrants to run our country. But the arts created during all this will transend and live on to inspire countless future generations.

Thinking about it like that made me feel pretty good and I'd thought I'd share.
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Melodybe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 08:17 PM
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1. No comments? Differing opinions? I would love to discuss it.
Oh well :shrug:
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Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 10:04 PM
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7. Paraphrase- "History? We'll all be dead then so it doesn't matter"
-Jr. (GWB)
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Melodybe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 10:10 PM
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9. Fucker, don't worry George you'll be remembered
as the worst fucking president in American history!

If the bastard ever gets thrown in jail, a picture of him behind bars is going to sit on my mantle!

That's some art to look forward to.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 08:25 PM
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2. But in 100 years, there will be new slimeballs people
have to fight.

We don't spend much time talking about how bad Herbert Hoover was or whomever.
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murielkane Donating Member (59 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 09:34 PM
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5. But we still watch the movies from the Hoover years
We may no longer recognize the political overtones of the Marx Brothers, or Jimmy Cagney in "The Public Enemy," or Betty Boop cartoons, or "King Kong." But we still love those movies and their fundamentally anarchic spirit.

That's the real nature of art -- it grows out of the horse manure of its particular moment, but it also transcends it to make fundamental statements about the human spirit.
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Melodybe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 09:59 PM
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6. Exactly, art transends time, Bushco will be remembered by the art
created during their reign, and thank god, it sure ain't a positive light.

You never know in a hundred years if some other prick is trying to ruin the world, some kid somewhere will come across Dylan's Masters of War and they will be inspired.
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 08:28 PM
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3. This is a positive way of looking at it.
Nice.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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Tux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 08:40 PM
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4. Yeah
Since the Puritans landed here, we'll have to fight for democracy and against tyranny. Seems democracy can't live without those who would destroy it for a $, a book written 2000 years ago, or for feelings of hatred that other people have freedom. The greatest enemies to America and democracy always lies inside.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 10:10 PM
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8. Most excellent, Melodybe! Outstanding.
Thinking is what makes the future.

Have you seen What the %#@$ Do You Know??

http://www.whatthebleep.com/

One of the best films since Buckaroo Banzai.

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Melodybe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 10:32 PM
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10. i'm kicking my own thread b/c I am a whore for attention
and anything that makes me feel better I like to share.
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