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Dawgs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-05 11:12 AM
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Need Help(links)!!! Where can I go to show proof of Bush lying(Iraq)?
I'm trying to make a point to a couple of freeper's who still refuse to believe that BUSH IS LIAR!!

Thanks.
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-05 11:13 AM
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1. downingstreetmemo.com
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jojo54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-05 11:14 AM
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2. Try some of the links from this thread-chimp lies re: Iraq
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-05 11:15 AM
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3. Here's a link to the Downing Street Memo.
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loveable liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-05 11:16 AM
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4. google "George w Bush'
Edited on Mon May-23-05 11:16 AM by loveable liberal
every time you see his mouth open with sound coming out, its a lie. The open mouth is the key....
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Dawgs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-05 11:17 AM
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5. Thanks, but I need specific quotes.
The Downing Street Memo won't work for this argument.

I know I've seen a table before, but I can't remember where.
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Chicken George Donating Member (109 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-05 11:28 AM
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9. Try the SOTU...

...and the uranium from "Africa"...the aluminum tubes..the "mobile labs"...the "45 minute launch"...and the "drones"...for starters..I believe he touched on all of those....
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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-05 11:19 AM
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6. In addition to the Downing Street Memo, there are specific provable lies
such as when he said: "And we gave him a chance to allow the inspectors in, and he wouldn’t let them in." when referring to Hussein and weapons inspectors. This is demonstrably false because inspectores were THERE and doing their jobs until just prior to Bush's war.

There are also quotes such as "But for those who say we haven't found the banned manufacturing devices or banned weapons, they're wrong, we found them." Also a complete lie.

He also said "the Iraqi regime could launch a biological or chemical attack in as little as 45 minutes after the order were given." This was a fabrication that was pulled not from any intelligence source, but from a college students term paper.

Then there was ""We won't be proven wrong.... I believe that we will find the truth. And the truth is, he was developing a program for weapons of mass destruction. " Also a falsehood.

Would you like more?
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jojo54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-05 11:21 AM
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7. Just saw this on another thread
Edited on Mon May-23-05 11:22 AM by jojo54
http://www.hereinreality.com/

There's lots here, especially something that I had never heard about before - chimpy linked to someone with desecrated bodies in their backyard?!?!

on edit - I love this shit, when we have cold hard facts for the freeps and fundies. Too bad they have blinders on.
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FLyellowdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-05 01:13 PM
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12. reality check
That is a super great link. Thanks for the connection.:*
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-05 11:26 AM
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8. Might try this web site. Claim vs Fact
Edited on Mon May-23-05 11:31 AM by sinkingfeeling
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Dawgs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-05 11:36 AM
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10. Thanks all. This helps.
I did find the table I was needing. It shows actually quotes and how they are untrue.

http://www.buzzflash.com/contributors/03/07/22_lies.html
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LunaC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-05 12:04 PM
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11. Here are some good ones
George W. Bush: "You can't distinguish between al-Qaeda and Saddam Hussein when you talk about the war on terror....The regime has long-standing and continuing ties to terrorist organizations and there are al-Qaeda terrorists inside Iraq."

http://www.cbc.ca/stories/2002/11/01/bushiraq021101

Ivan Eland (Director of Defense Studies at the Cato Institute): "The CIA is skeptical of ties between Al-Qaeda and Iraq -- justifiably so. The CIA run around trying to corroborate this stuff, and it hasn't had too much luck. And the ties that they have claimed seem very thin and on closer inspection don't seem to go anywhere.”

http://www.rferl.org/features/2002/10/29102002161249.asp
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George W. Bush (October 2002) "The evidence indicates that Iraq is reconstituting its nuclear weapons program."

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/10/20021007-8.html

Mohammed ElBaradei (International Atomic Energy Agency Director): "We have to date found no evidence that Iraq has revived its nuclear weapon program since the elimination of the program in the 1990s.”

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/updates/iraq_01-27-03.html
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George W. Bush (October 2002): “Satellite photographs reveal that Iraq is rebuilding facilities at sites that have been part of its nuclear program in the past.”

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/10/20021007-8.html

Mohammed ElBaradei (International Atomic Energy Agency Director): “First, we have been inspected all of those buildings and facilities that were identified through satellite imagery as having been modified or constructed over the past four years. The IAEA inspectors have been able to gain ready access and to clarify the nature of the activities currently being conducted in these facilities. No prohibited nuclear activities have been identified during these inspections.”

http://www.usembassy.it/file2003_01/alia/a3012703.htm
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George W. Bush (October 2002): “Iraq has attempted to purchase high-strength aluminum tubes and other equipment needed for gas centrifuges, which are used to enrich uranium for nuclear weapons.”

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/10/20021007-8.html


Mohammed ElBaradei (International Atomic Energy Agency Director): “A particular issue of focus has been the attempted procurement by Iraq of high-strength aluminum tubes, and the question of whether these tubes, if acquired, could be used for the manufacture of nuclear centrifuge. Iraqi authorities have indicated that their unsuccessful attempts to procure the aluminum tubes related to a program to reverse-engineer conventional rockets. To verify this information, the IAEA inspectors have inspected the relevant rocket production and storage sites, taken tube samples, interviewed relevant Iraqi personnel, and reviewed procurement contracts and related documents. From our analysis to date, it appears that the aluminum tubes would be consistent with the purposes stated by Iraq and, unless modified, would not be suitable for manufacturing centrifuges.”

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/middle_east/iraq/elbaradei_report.html
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