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MadAsHellNewYorker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-05 06:36 PM
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Where are the September 11th Attacks?
http://www.fbi.gov/mostwant/topten/fugitives/laden.htm

From the FBI's own Wanted Poster

Usama Bin Laden is wanted for the following crimes:

MURDER OF U.S. NATIONALS OUTSIDE THE UNITED STATES; CONSPIRACY TO MURDER U.S. NATIONALS OUTSIDE THE UNITED STATES; ATTACK ON A FEDERAL FACILITY RESULTING IN DEATH

Where is the Conspiracy to murder US Nationals INSIDE the United States?

Here is the caution:

USAMA BIN LADEN IS WANTED IN CONNECTION WITH THE AUGUST 7, 1998, BOMBINGS OF THE UNITED STATES EMBASSIES IN DAR ES SALAAM, TANZANIA, AND NAIROBI, KENYA. THESE ATTACKS KILLED OVER 200 PEOPLE. IN ADDITION, BIN LADEN IS A SUSPECT IN OTHER TERRORIST ATTACKS THROUGHOUT THE WORLD.

Why would the US government not take the opportunity to blame Bin Laden and instead boil 9/11 into "suspect in other terrorist attacks throughout the world"?

Out of date?

"Poster Revised November 2001"

So I ask again, where are the September 11th Attacks?
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MadAsHellNewYorker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-05 07:03 PM
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1. .
:kick:
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MadAsHellNewYorker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 09:44 AM
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2. kick for the morning crew
:kick:
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gordianot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 09:55 AM
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3. 9-11 attacks are the same place the missing 25 pages from the 9-11 report.
Remember in November 2004 there were missing pages too hot to be released during the election? They were to be released 5 months after the election. No show so far. Information falls in many black holes.
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MadAsHellNewYorker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 10:14 AM
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4. So even though the US govt was pinning 9/11 on Bin Laden
Edited on Tue May-24-05 10:14 AM by MadAsHellNewYorker
the afternoon of 9/11 they STILL havent gotten around to update their wanted poster YET?

:wtf:
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gordianot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 10:25 AM
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7. Right not on the Wanted Poster.
And they did not release all of the report that explains what happened because it might have impacted the election.
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tyedyeto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 10:19 AM
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5. Didn't you get the memo?
Saddam did it :sarcasm:
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Frederik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 10:24 AM
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6. FBI director Mueller
admitted in mid-2002 that they didn't have any hard evidence he was involved... But by then, the attention was turning to Saddam anyway, and the mushroom clouds. Today, Usama's bin Forgotten.
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MadAsHellNewYorker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 10:31 AM
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8. No evidence of Bin Laden
being involved in 9/11? OK, so let me get this straght...

The US Government blames Al Quida for 9/11
Bin Laden is the Head of Al Quida
BUT they have no evidence Bin Laden is involved in 9/11
Therefore, the logical conclusion is THERE IS NO evidence Al Quida is involved in 9/11.

so we entered Afghanistan for no reason. If we were searching for UBL becuase of his involvement in 9/11 (as the pResident likes to claim), hes not EVEN a suspect!!!!!!! According to the fbi, we aren't even hunting the real terrorists?!?!
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 10:36 AM
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10. No, there were reasons for the invasion of Afghanistan
1) Punish the Taliban for not moving forward with the UNOCAL pipeline (Guess who Hamid Karzai used to work for)

2) Restore the Bush Criminal Empire's *ahem* "agricultural business" in Afghanistan. (George Bush Sr. has the nickname "Poppy" for a reason)
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DrDebug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 10:37 AM
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11. Al Qaeda did it in a parallel universe
911 in a parallel universe – right wing conspiracy.

by Leonid Sakharov

This is the story that which has never happened in our world. Because all powerful people here are good, moral and faithful. Several cave living evils are our enemies. Good Will people will kill all of them some day and peace and prosperity will be established forever and ever. Amen!

What you can read here is about another universe. It exists in parallel to ours or probably not. Maybe it's just fantasy of a loser like me to blame somebody else in my misery. Quite true it is. I am unemployed PhD, my business was never really alive, I want to cry and sober. Don't read it in good mood. Just stop here for safety of your own naïve cheerleader temper.

I warn you. Don't tell that I didn't. On your own risk.


Continue at -> http://www.leokrut.com/articles/911inparallel.html


Do we have the future? That depends on the meaning of word "we".
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Frederik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 10:40 AM
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13. Well, they did produce that curious video
with the chubby Indian fella all dressed up like Bin Laden but not looking like him at all, and with the sound almost inaudible...

According to the 9/11 Commission report, the mastermind of the attack was a guy named Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, who reportedly was arrested in March 2003 in Pakistan. Where he is held and what's going to happen with him is anybody's guess. I suppose he disappeared into a black hole somewhere.

It's slightly curious that Pakistani police reported that they killed him in September 2002 though. They even gave a graphic description of how it happened, in a shoot-out. And that British journalist, visiting the house in which he was allegedly arrested, was told by the woman living in the house that KSM had never lived there, and that the police had only taken her half retarded son, accusing him of being al-Qa'ida.

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foo_bar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 10:33 AM
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9. heh, check out Whitey Bulger
Bulger is an avid reader with an interest in history. He is known to frequent libraries and historic sites. Bulger is currently on the heart medication Atenolol (50 mg) and maintains his physical fitness by walking on beaches and in parks with his female companion, Catherine Elizabeth Greig. Bulger and Greig love animals and may frequent animal shelters. Bulger has been known to alter his appearance through the use of disguises. He has traveled extensively throughout the United States, Europe, Canada, and Mexico.

CAUTION

JAMES J. BULGER IS BEING SOUGHT FOR HIS ROLE IN NUMEROUS MURDERS COMMITTED FROM THE EARLY 1970s THROUGH THE MID-1980s IN CONNECTION WITH HIS LEADERSHIP OF AN ORGANIZED CRIME GROUP THAT ALLEGEDLY CONTROLLED EXTORTION, DRUG DEALS, AND OTHER ILLEGAL ACTIVITIES IN THE BOSTON, MASSACHUSETTS, AREA. HE HAS A VIOLENT TEMPER AND IS KNOWN TO CARRY A KNIFE AT ALL TIMES.


http://www.fbi.gov/mostwant/topten/fugitives/bulger.htm

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MadAsHellNewYorker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 10:37 AM
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12. At least they take the time to accuse him of
RACKETEERING INFLUENCED AND CORRUPT ORGANIZATIONS (RICO) - MURDER (18 COUNTS), CONSPIRACY TO COMMIT MURDER, CONSPIRACY TO COMMIT EXTORTION, NARCOTICS DISTRIBUTION, CONSPIRACY TO COMMIT MONEY LAUNDERING; EXTORTION; MONEY LAUNDERING

there really isnt much of that in the Bin Laden Wanted Poster
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foo_bar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 10:45 AM
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14. Whitey:FBI::Osama:CIA
Edited on Tue May-24-05 10:46 AM by foo_bar
The agent and the gangster met again several weeks later to cement the deal. Connolly recalls Bulger saying that while the Mafia can ``play checkers, we'll play chess.''

So it began: Whitey Bulger and the FBI.

Bulger as an 'investment'

In the beginning the arrangement may have actually made sense.

...

Today, Connolly makes no apologies about the intimate get-togethers. He exchanged gifts with the gangsters, mostly at Christmas time -- small things, like a book and, one time, handcarved hunting knives. ``You can't be around those guys for 15 years and not like them,'' he said.

Then there was John Morris, the former head of the FBI's organized-crime squad in Boston. In a series of admissions, Morris testified this past spring how he had hosted secret dinners for Bulger and Flemmi, taken $7,000 in payoffs, and warned them to stay away from a bugging operation.

the Boston Globe
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foo_bar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 11:00 AM
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15. it does say "attack on a federal facility..."
Unless the USS Cole was a floating federal facility.
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MadAsHellNewYorker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 11:03 AM
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16. The embassies are considered Federal Facilities
Edited on Tue May-24-05 11:05 AM by MadAsHellNewYorker
I believe

and on edit: The wanted poster mentions NOTHING of the USS Cole.
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 11:06 AM
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17. The ONLY person ever charged in connection to the 9/11 attacks....
...in the United States is Zacarias Moussaoui, who may not have had anything to do with it at all. He was in jail when it happened, in any case.

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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 11:07 AM
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18. OK, here's the deal.
Edited on Tue May-24-05 11:10 AM by yibbehobba
Those things on the poster? Osama's been indicted for those. The thing not on the poster? He hasn't been indicted, thus if he is captured by the US or one of its allies they will claim not to be subject to the courts in dealing with him (even though that argument is silly because he's already been indicted for earlier crimes, I'm sure it's the argument they'd try to make.)

No conspiracy. Stop making things up. (edit: this comment not directed at the OP)
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MadAsHellNewYorker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 11:10 AM
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19. I just asked a simple question
Edited on Tue May-24-05 11:12 AM by MadAsHellNewYorker
we were told that Bin Laden was responsible for 9/11. Why isn't he wanted for it?

I did not make anything up. That web page you see is straight from the FBI. I just want to know why Bin Laden isn't wanted in connection with the 9/11 Attacks. And if its only because he hasn't been indited, why not go ask the 100s of prisoner's who haven't been indited for any crimes and are being kept in jail with out being charged?

on edit: thanks :hi:
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DrDebug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 11:14 AM
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20. And how much is the reward?
FBI: $5,000,000
US: $50,000,000 (www.cnn.com/2005/US/01/24/binladen.reward/)

Because if you turn him into the FBI you'll get 10 times less than what CNN has promised you?
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MadAsHellNewYorker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 11:16 AM
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21. reward:
Edited on Tue May-24-05 11:16 AM by MadAsHellNewYorker
The Rewards For Justice Program, United States Department of State, is offering a reward of up to $25 million for information leading directly to the apprehension or conviction of Usama Bin Laden.

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