Great Moments In Bi-Partisan Compromise During The Bush Years!!!

Well we have seen bipartisan compromise win the day over either the extreme left or extreme right positions.

That made me do some thinking about some of the other shining moments in Bi-partisan cooperation that we have seen since the Chimp and his daddies cronies came to power.

While this is not a comprehensive list, it is illustrative of what we get when we trust these asswipes.
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In the years since 9/11, a couple of big deals stand out.

First we have:





That compromise was lauded at the time as a great compromise. It was seen as the beginning of a solution to the Iraq "problem". As we have seen it set the stage for our unauthorized entry into Iraq. An invasion that many believe was illegal as well as catastrophic to the country of Iraq!

Way to work together guys. Thank God the democrats believed the information they were given by Republicans before that vote! I'm sure the well over 100,000 dead Iraqi civilians and Halliburton thank us equally for our willingness to work together!
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Lets look at another fine example of what our working WITH repugs gets us:




This one was going to KEEP US ALL SAFE!

Well, I'll leave it to you to decide how badly that fucked the country. Time will tell. Sure does not look like a good compromise, bi-partisan at this point.
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The moral to all of this? Talk to me in a year about whether this is a good compromise for US OR whether we just got screwed AGAIN!

What? Have Frist invoke the nuclear option? You have no guarantee whatsoever that we had enough votes to block it and I have no faith whatsoever in either RINOs or DINOs to stand strong against party pressure. Never forget the Medicaid bill.

right now. I don't feel good about it however.

There is little or no guarantee they will even hold to this relatively marginal deal.

They say this deal was built on trust. I simply ask what trust?

I think that is a fair question to ask without folks trying to make me prove vote counts one freaking way or the other.

Although since you ask, the deal WAS STRUCK BECAUSE THEY DIDN"T HAVE THE FREAKING VOTES!

I'm glad that Frist looks like an ass. Just not as sure as some that it is anything other than a blip. Another occasion where we capitulated under their pressure rather than stand up to it.

We may have just given the bullies our lunch money once AGAIN!!!

Now let me ask you this, Do know of any examples where working WITH them has worked out good for us since this national hysteria began?

Why else did you highlight the Iraq War and the Patriot Act? For what other purpose was that? For that matter, what's a line like "We may have just given the bullies our lunch money once AGAIN!!!" when you allegedly haven't made a decision yet? Bullshit. You've made your decision - you just don't have any better options or don't want to state them.

The deal was struck because 14 moderates took it upon themselves WITHOUT approval from either leader. Have you forgotten what happens to RINOs when they're whipped by party leadership? They change their votes, and quickly. I'm not saying they did have the votes, but not a single person on this planet can say for certain that they wouldn't have had those votes when push came to shove. NO ONE.

And being that we're both on the edges of the political spectrum here, no compromise is going to please either of us. I'm not thrilled with the decision. I also don't think it's a horrible thing either.

Clearly Whether it was or was not a victory for us, It sure was a defeat for the repugs. They showed their asses AGAIN but, this time the country saw them and gasped. I think that is great.

Clearly the Right is miserable about it. That is great. As others have noted the perception of being winners is great. Good for morale and a hopeful sign.

Does that make you feel better?

My point, IS (whether you choose to believe it or not) that I really am not sure how it will work out in the long run. The devil is in the details. Where are our real guantees?

It looks good now. It is possible it will look worse in retrospect.

Fair?

Frist is going to invoke cloture on Myers later this week. It is a direct challenge to the 14 Senators who signed the agreement and a hearty fuck you to everyone else so this is going to play out a lot sooner.

The bright spot in this is that now that the agreement has seen the light of day, the republicans who signed it will be hard pressed to go back on it. They might not have felt so conflicted if this came up in a year or two when their constituencies probably wouldn't remember anything about it but it's coming up in the same week! He didn't even wait a week!

Monumentally stupid move on Frist's part. Until I saw this one I firmly believed that Frist was involved in the compromise as a way to save face (for not having the necessary votes for the nuclear option). Now, I'm not sure at all that he was because this is definitely a "cutting off his nose despite his face" moment.

Pissy was supposed to be "the anointed one." The DeLay of the Senate, the guy carrying the Rove sewage from the WH to the Senate chamber for consumption by the loyal acolytes. His reward was to be the next anointed one. He was riding high, the insider, the guy with all the cards, the overseer who stood to inherit the whole plantation, if he would only have patience and do a good job whipping the slaves into shape during the interim.

A pissed off old sonofbitch named McCain, with his longtime backer, Warner, have decided to challenge that assumption, and the Gang of 14 is part and parcel of that challenge.

Pissy sees his power draining away, rapidly, frighteningly so he must act now, or never. Will he succeed? Will others be emboldened, and shift their allegiance to the Gang? Will he find a way to bully or con his GOP slaves, with threats of withdrawal of GOP funding? Will the Gang set up their own infrastructure of PACs to overcome that? Will Pissy find a way to keep the Portsmouth Naval Shipyard open, in order to peel Snowe and Collins away from the pact? Will Warner find two others to take their places if that occurs? Such a soap opera!

This has as much to do with a GOP challenge from the center, a throwdown to the right, as it has to do with preserving Senate rules and ensuring minority voices.

We are certainly benefitting from it, and that is good for us, until we can take back the legislative branch. And when we do, we will have to be kind to the GOP 7, because that is only the fair thing to do.

You know the old saw: The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

Let's Keep Our Fingers Crossed!

Nominated!!!

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The lizards are in orbit above Earth! ... They're here for the oil!... :scared:

The personal bankruptcy bill, too. :puke:

for us so far.

I'm cautiously pessimistic.

other bi-partisan triumphs of compromise:

The First (Economic Stimulus) Tax cut for the Rich

The Compromise on Star Wars funding

Tort Reform passed with bi-partisan support

These are not 1st degree legislative compromises, but deserve mentioning:

The 911 investigation

The hearings on Abu-Gharib

Doing The People's Work! Getting Back To Business!

Bullshit!!!

...when 'moderate' Democrats agreed to leave the Bush WH out of the 9-11 investigations and not make an issue of the fact that he and his family have a business relationship with the Saudi Royals...the country of origin of most of the hijackers.

And I have to say that I don't believe the information about conviction rate of 'terrorists' under the Patriot act. Many of the 'convictions' were overturned for lack of evidence, etc.

It's also a matter of opinion as to whether these were 'compromises' or collusion and complicity.

that has actually worked for US!

most on their list of concerns!!!

Well, After gourging at the big trough, cutting the throats of their enemies, ensuring additional years of trough feeding, and maybe having a quickie with Jeff Gannon...

MY GOD! So Cynical!

that has come out good for us in the end?

Just one?

I think the euphoria is wearing off and reality is settling in.

Everyone claiming victory seems to be a little tight lipped.

and the Prescription drug plan and the first round of tax cuts. We get screwed every time we cooperate with those lying sacks of sh!t

where it worked out!