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ShaneGR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-03 05:10 AM
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LOL, USIntelligence blaming French Intelligence for bad intelligence, WAA?
Uh, I'm busy cleaning the water off my screen... I spit up my drink when I read this. TOO FUNNY!:

http://www.portal.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2003/07/14/wdoss114.xml&sSheet=/news/2003/07/14/ixnewstop.html


The French secret service is believed to have refused to allow MI6 to give the Americans "credible" intelligence showing that Iraq was trying to buy uranium ore from Niger, US intelligence sources said yesterday.

MI6 had more than one "different and credible" piece of intelligence to show that Iraq was attempting to buy the ore, known as yellowcake, British officials insisted. But it was given to them by at least one and possibly two intelligence services and, under the rules governing cooperation, it could not be shared with anyone else without the originator's permission.

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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 09:00 PM
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1. Of course. Why didn't we think of that.
All this should be blamed on the FRENCH.

SHRIEEEKKKK. Freedom fries......invade france......

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Star Donating Member (745 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 09:02 PM
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2. They gave the info to the Brits, but not the US?
I can't WAIT to hear what the French have to say about this.

This show is getting really good.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 09:08 PM
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3. wasn't it just a few months ago that we heard
"we don't care what the french and the germans say"?

"Homeland security doesn't rely on the surrendering French or the socialist Germans."

and other such statements.

???
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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 09:14 PM
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4. Croissant logic: suddenly it's all so clear...
We know Saddam has weapons, and the fact that we can't find them just proves that he meant to use them for ill.

We know that the French hate us, so they must be denying us corroboration. We KNOW that there are weapons, so there must have been proof. If the French had no information, they would have happily turned it over to us just to annoy us, but since they didn't turn any nothings over, they must have had something infallible.

I'm glad the UK and U.S. governments have people of such perspicacity, 'cuz I never coulda parsed up such a thing...
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berry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 09:40 PM
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8. PoE, you've restated the logic brilliantly!
And shown it up for the sh*t it is. Bravo.

I suppose it's inevitable that such stories will pop up all over from now on. On another front, FOX is reporting that there's an al Qaida group in Iraq that is "responsible" for all the attacks on US troops. How very convenient is the timing. (I HOPE this can be disproved, and quickly.)
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 09:31 PM
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5. This is too funny!
How pathetic! The Bush/Blair Poodle Team really has no shame!
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berry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 09:35 PM
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6. Whoa! I am suddenly VERY confused.
I think we need to find out EXACTLY where those fakes started out, and what route they took to US hands (from whence they were eventually handed over to ElBaradei). I thought the Brits had them? But no, that's wrong apparently. Is anyone else confused?

From the Telegraph article:

<snip>The fake documents were not behind that assessment and were not seen by MI6 until after they were denounced by the IAEA. If MI6 had seen them earlier, it would have immediately advised the Americans that they were fakes.

There had been a number of reports in America in particular suggesting that the fake documents - which came from another intelligence source - were passed on via MI6, the officials said. But this was not true.

"What they can't accuse MI6 of doing is passing anything on this to the CIA because it didn't have the fake documents and it was not allowed to pass on the intelligence it did have to anyone else."<snip)
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annagull Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 09:39 PM
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7. This is how the news media and the * administration
will try to bury this whole thing: they will flood the media with so much contradictory news that none of us will know which way is up. This is how they get the American people to lose interest.
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Deb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 09:44 PM
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9. Lets get Italy involved too??
'France and Italy gave information on Saddam'

The Financial Times has learnt from senior Whitehall sources that the information came from two west European countries, and not from now discredited documents that proved to be forgeries.

http://news.ft.com/servlet/ContentServer?pagename=FT.com/StoryFT/FullStory&c=StoryFT&cid=1057562362080

But wait, there is MORE!

"The identity of the foreign intelligence agency responsible for the information has not been disclosed but one suggestion is that it is Italy’s SISMI military intelligence agency, a claim hotly denied by the Italian government.

The office of the Italian premier, Silvio Berlusconi, said the agency had not handed over any documents to Britain or the US."

http://www.thescotsman.co.uk/international.cfm?id=764662003
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