FAA Managers Destroyed 9/11 Tape

FAA Managers Destroyed 9/11 Tape
Recording Contained Accounts of Communications With Hijacked Planes

By Sara Kehaulani Goo
Washington Post Staff Writer
Thursday, May 6, 2004; 6:16 PM

Six air traffic controllers provided accounts of their communications with hijacked planes on Sept. 11, 2001, on a tape recording that was later destroyed by Federal Aviation Administration managers, according to a government investigative report issued today.

It is unclear what information was on the tape because no one ever listened to, transcribed or duplicated it, the report by the Department of Transportation inspector general said.



http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&contentId=A6632-2004May6¬Found=true

and threw each piece into a different trash can.

let them come on Randi's show and have an open Q&A?

It's not like they could have possibly forgotten what went on that day! I guess my feeling is that they have been "convinced" it's in their best interest to keep quiet.

You can bet somebody listened to it before it was destroyed.

You can bet "somebody" listened to that tape.

:thumbsup:

whoops...I guess the first one did go through.

:mad: Of course they'd want to get rid of those tapes. If you go to the September 11th section of the site I made a post about the tape's from the doc "Loose Change." If you haven't seen it you should. It tells how on the audio tapes is all types of information that can me damning. The box's also tell what type of plane it was. Here's info about the black box that talks about the audio tape's and why they'd want to get rid of them.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x41527

have verified information about the discrepancies between Norad and FAA timelines for the morning of 9/11.

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July 31, 2004

WASHINGTON, D.C. -- Sen. Mark Dayton, D-Minn., charged Friday that the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) and the North American Aerospace Defense Command (NORAD) have covered up "catastrophic failures" that left the nation vulnerable during the Sept. 11 hijackings.

"For almost three years now, NORAD officials and FAA officials have been able to hide their critical failures that left this country defenseless during two of the worst hours in our history," Dayton declared during a Senate Governmental Affairs Committee hearing.

(snip)

During the hearing, Dayton told leaders of the Sept. 11 commission, that, based on the commission's report, a NORAD chronology made public a week after the attacks was grossly misleading. The chronology said the FAA notified the military's emergency air command of three of the hijackings while those jetliners were still airborne. Dayton cited commission findings that the FAA failed to inform NORAD about three of the planes until after they had crashed.

http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20040731213239607

But still, something that should have caused widespread inquiry. If nothing else, you keep that for its historical value. Somebody wanted it destroyed for a reason, and they got their wish.

certainly seems relevant. Noticed it was a year old after I posted it, but no less pertinent to things now.

Olaf

Will those FAA managers be hired by Arthur Andersen?

is this in the WaPo today? Wonder if something else is coming up.

Hard to know what action will be taken from this report, though. :shrug:

from time to time. There's so much old news that's never been resolved your head could start to spin. So many lies...so many. :crazy:

They destroyed it at the Union's request. The Union was afraid that the controllers, while still shook up from the attack, might have worded things in such a fashion that it could hurt them. Possibly make it look like it was their fault the warning did not get out earlier.

but I live with a controller and according to her, the tapes of the de-briefing shouldn't have been made in the first place. It's not regular procedure and against NATCA regulations to tape controllers testimony regarding air incidents.

to "regular procedure."

in that instance apparently they wanted to get their facts down because it was such a crazy day but from what I've been told taping controllers incident de-briefings are a no no.

My partner never trusts FAA management (30,000 overpaid paper pushers who go out of their way to make controllers lives miserable) but there seems to be a misunderstanding about intent here. It looks REALLY fishy I know. I just wish some controllers from NY would speak up about this to explain what happened. :shrug:

I want to know WHAT union official....that just smells, I don't believe it.

You'd think an anti-union administration like the current one would LOOOOOVE to have a scapegoat like that to try and pin 9/11 blame on.

...drip
...drip
...drip

My. The tangled trails McLiar leaves. I wonder why this is reappearing now?

and deceiving. You know, to those things known as patterns that begin to clearly show an "intent" to mislead.


Olaf

If I wanted to get rid of the tape, I'd take it to some secluded area, pour lighter fluid on the reel, light a match, stand downwind for a half hour, and then have the ashes scattered in a tire dump.

This is, of course, assuming that I was an FAA administrator with something really awful to hide.

"The destruction of evidence in the Government's possession, in this case an audiotape -- particularly during times of national crisis -- has the effect of fostering an appearance that information is being withheld from the public." Well d'uh!

Why do I get the feeling that 911 is going to take the same path as the JFK assisnation. Lots and lots of us, digging around, breaking down the official story, people calling us cranks and conspiracy theorists, finally dragging it before some special government committee fifteen-twenty years after the fact, and that special committee will look at the overwhelming evidence of LIHOP/MIHOP, and meekly, quietly, against their will, be forced to conclude that yes indeed, 911 was a LIHOP/MIHOP conspiracy.

And even sadder is that like the JFK assisination, even with this official government acknowledgement of the truth, nothing further will be done, and 911 will follow JFK unwillingly into the darkness.

Oh yeah right. WHO ORDERED THOSE TAPES DESTROYED? We need names, memos, the works. full investigation into this incident is called for!

None.

(the tapes).)

Stinking to high heaven.

Glad you all brought this up again. Needs to be revisited, investigated, and then heads should roll.

But Someday we will!!! How they sleep at night has got to be hard!!!

Nobody listened to it Ya Right!!!

http://www.dfw.com/mld/startelegram/2004/05/07/news/nation/8612203.htm

Air traffic control supervisor destroyed 9-11 comment tape

By Matthew L. Wald

The New York Times

WASHINGTON - At least six air traffic controllers who dealt with two of the hijacked airliners on Sept. 11, 2001, made a tape recording a few hours later describing the events, but the tape was destroyed by a supervisor without anyone making a transcript or even listening to it, the Transportation Department said Thursday.

The taping began before noon on Sept. 11 at the New York Air Route Traffic Control Center, in Ronkonkoma, N.Y., where about 16 people met in a basement conference room known as the Bat Cave and passed around a microphone, each recalling his or her version of the events of a few hours earlier. The recording included statements of five or 10 minutes each by controllers who had spoken by radio to people on the planes or who had tracked the aircraft on radar, a report said.

Officials at the center never told superiors of the tape's existence, according to the report, which was made public Thursday by the Transportation Department's inspector general.

A quality-assurance manager at the center destroyed the tape several months after it was made, crushing the cassette in his hand, then cutting the tape into little pieces and dropping them in trash cans around the building, according to the report.

I am actually shocked at this, and I am shocked that the MSM reported it.