Petition to Congress--Peak Oil

http://www.petitiononline.com/EndofOil/petition.html

This needs more signatures! Please spread the word!

(I posted this in the Peak Oil Forum but found out it doesn't go to the Latest page)

I looked but didn't see it. I see alot of my "blogsters" I read in the response/comments section. I think Flying Talking Donkey had this posted on his blog.

and I have to say that guy is an idiot. There will be no 1 technology that will give us the energy and conveniance that oil has. Maybe a combination will come close. Right now, the techonoly is sorely lacking in all alternative energy sources. The Hydrogen Fuel Cell is still far off dream.

The thing with Biodiesel is that it takes Petroleum based fetilizers to grow the corn, soy, or whatever that is being in turned into the fuel. So you are basically using more energy to make the stuff that you turn into energy. When Peak Oil hits, we will want all available farm land to be used to grow food so we can eat.

Turning coal into oil sounds good, but coal is a very dirty fuel source. If we are burning in automobiles then we will be polluting a whole lot more and what will people say about Global Warming then?

If we made a massive capital and technological investment in alternative energy now then the consequences from Peak Oil will be lessened. But with Bu$h on the throne, I don't see that happening anytime soon.

experience of massive idiocity.....

PO means that we have reached the peak of production, T Boone Pickens was probably right on when he said that 82 million bbl/day would be the most oil that ever comes out of the ground on any one day. It looks like he was right.

Aftre that point, the total amount we can pump will decline. The rate at which it will decline depends on many variables. In fields that have been over pushed through clever but unintelligent technologies like water injection, the reduction is steep and sudden.

The Saudis, for example, have been pushing the Ghawar field in such a manner; it also happens to be the biggest field on the planet. Its failure would be catastrophic

But even given the best case, falling production will not only drive up fuel costs but every cost dependent on oil, food, all products of any kind.

Western economies are wholly dependent on oil that is BOTH cheap AND plentiful, change either of those factors and there is trouble.

Western, debt enabled economies, are also absolutely dependent on growth to pay off the debt at some time in the future, an economy dependent on growth generated by cheap plentiful oil will find it very difficult to fund the transition, both in financial and energy terms, regardless of the ingenuity of the scientists and businesses in it.


And my fave:

We'll never pump the last of the oil because, at some point down the curve, and a long way before the bottom of the well, the EROI passes 1:1, long before that we stop because the effective EROI, including refining, shipping and other overheads on producing the oil for the end user, will pass 1:1.

Oh, then there are markets that discount the future into the present. Once they see $100 oil on the horizon, they will price it in to the present, driving down the present value of oil dependent stock (guess how many) and making it even harder to raise the capital to fund the transition.

(isn't money grand?)

I don't like thinking about Peak Oil...that's what we should pay our leaders and scientists to do. Sigh. I'll sign petitions, but I just can't deal with the idea itself right now.

have done nothing except treat it as an unlimited resource; with that filth Reagan denouncing alternative energy programs in the proces. (and people believed him! :mad: )

Kerry and * have paid lip service to it. * has done nothing because he's just a bag of hot air that's floated above the stratosphere.

And the 55MPH limit should be put back. IMHO, of course. Going 65MPH uses 15% more gas than 55MPH; your typical automobile reaches peak performance/mileage at around 35~40MPH.

Presidents since Reagan have failed us. Yes, this means Clinton, too. These so-called leaders had access to the information and ignored it, screwing us all. Fuck 'em.

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