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maxrandb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 08:51 AM
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Comments from RNC Chairman and others. Talk about Hate Speach?
With all the "librul" media attention being paid to some rather "unflattering" comments Howard Dean recently made about Republicans, I did a little research using our friend "google".

Trust me, it didn't take me very long to compile these from some RNC Chairman, and other Republican surrogates. I "googled" RNC derogatory comments about Democrats and initially got over 20,000 hits. Then I "googled" Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity comments on Democrats and I think the computer is still working to compile them all. In any event, here are some for you to enjoy and ponder.

I plan to send the links and the comments to CNN and MSNBC, but I would not hold my breath to see these covered anywhere.

Perhaps they're right. Perhaps there is a "librul" media bias. I mean why else would they be spending so much time highlighting the comments of Howard Dean, a man not running for any public office. Just a typical example of the "librul" media giving free air-time to liberals, while ignoring Republicans. :eyes:

I've included some of my own bolding.

RNC Chairman Ed Gillespie issued the following comment

http://www.rnc.org/News/Read.aspx?ID=4269

"John Kerry forgot he voted for the Patriot Act and No Child Left Behind. Al Gore forgot he was Vice President when Osama Bin Laden declared war on the United States five separate times and when terrorists killed Americans. Now George Soros can't remember what he said yesterday," said RNC Chairman Ed Gillespie.

http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=30813

"To angry Democrats like Nancy Pelosi and Ted Kennedy, terrorists and militia aren't responsible for the deaths of U.S. soldiers, their commander-in-chief is. And our servicemen and women, in putting torture chambers 'under U.S. management,' are no different than a regime that systematically tortured, raped and killed its own people. The San Francisco/Boston Democrats led by John Kerry have now adopted Blame America First as their official policy."

http://www.allamericanpatriots.com/m-news+article+storyid-565.html

We cannot allow presidential candidates or their surrogates to become mouthpieces for terrorists. Blaming freedom-loving people for these attacks is not the way to defeat the scourge of global terror.

“Howard Dean said a number of untrue and irresponsible things during the course of his candidacy, including accusing the President of knowing about the 9-11 attacks before they happened. Those who seek the highest office in the land and those who speak on their behalf have a responsibility not to repeat the threats made by the terrorists we are working to defeat or by replacing the facts with rumors and fiction.”

http://www.rnc.org/RNCResearch/read.aspx?ID=3180

"With the 2004 Democrat presidential primary underway, Al Gore reminded voters today of two very important things. First, that Democrats won't rule out raising taxes to spend more of people's hard earned money and second that he is still willing to say or do anything to get elected."

http://www.newshounds.us/2004/10/28/rnc_democrats_encourage_voter_fraud.php

Democrats appear to be setting the stage to use the new provisional balloting rules to convert registration fraud into vote fraud, with the possibility of Kerry supporters voting in multiple jurisdictions or under multiple names

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/08/30/gop.purple.hearts/

FYI "Librul" Media. The below occurred at the OFFICIAL Republican Convention!!

Delegates to the Republican National Convention found a new way to take a jab at Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry's Vietnam service record: by sporting adhesive bandages with small purple hearts on them.

Here's a few choice one's from Rush Limbaugh.

http://scoobiedavis.blogspot.com/2004_03_01_scoobiedavis_archive.html

Just a few minutes ago, Rush Limbaugh on Democrats: “They celebrate in private the attack in Spain.”

Just a few minutes ago on Limbaugh's show:

They aren’t even the Democrats of JFK. They are the Democrats of Timothy Leary. They’re the Democrats of the anti-war movements of the 1960’s. Nobody’s said this, folks, but in John Kerry and Bill Clinton before him, the Democrats have nominated two huge anti-war radicals. Obviously, Clinton was a draft-dodger. Kerry was one of the moist radical and vocal anti-war activists that we’ve had. Clinton did next to nothing about terrorism on his watch; Kerry won’t either. They’re going to bow down to the demands of the European socialists who supported their anti-war activities in the 1960’s. These elitists who have a skepticism of the difference between good and evil.

Later, Limbaugh attacked John Kerry as un-American:

I don’t understand un-Americanism. I don’t understand the Kerrys of the world—and all the Democrats who want us to fail. I don’t understand the people who live—who were born and bred in this country, who grew up in this country—I don’t understand these people who do not believe in the greatness of this country—who think there are greater places in the world than this country. I don’t understand these people who think that we are the original sin of the world. I don’t understand it. Intellectually, I don’t understand. I know who they are; I know what they believe. But I can’t relate. I can’t possibly understand someone who hates this country who was born and raised here. . .I don’t understand what it is about this country that people distrust and do not like--and I'm talking about you liberals and you 60's Democrats in this country.

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/weekend_sites/week_in_review_061404___061804/content/thursday_quotes.guest.html

"The Democrats would willingly lose this war if it would get rid of Bush. I do not jest here. They're not about winning this war. They don't even think the war is justified. They don't the war should be happening."

http://mediamatters.org/items/200506030003

Limbaugh: Making Election Day a holiday won't help Dems because "most of their voters don't work anyway"

http://mediamatters.org/items/200506010003

Citing Horowitz, Limbaugh claimed Democrats, terrorists share anti-American agenda

and here is from a review of Hannity's book. You know the one where he really "doesn't equate" Democrats with evil. "I Report, You Decide"

http://www.conservativegroundswell.com/index/weblog/comments/deliver-us-from-democrats/

Hannity says we face moral choices between good and evil every day. If we make excuses for evil—Hitler was a "madman," a pedophile priest was "weak" or, as philandering actor Ethan Hawke recently advised us, Bill Clinton "suffered from" infidelity—soon we cease being able to distinguish good from evil at all. (I would add to the excuses for evil, "It’s just about sex.") With each choice we make, large and small, we take a step closer to the devil or a step closer to God.
The leaders of the modern Democratic Party, Hannity says, have made excuses for evil for so long that they cannot recognize evil anymore. The closest thing to it in their vocabulary would be "someone who wears fur." And of course, they recognize evil in the person of "George W. Bush," whom they see as the very essence of evil. In fact, Bush may be the only force of evil in the world liberals haven’t wanted to appease.


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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 08:55 AM
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1. PRETENTIOUS HYPOCRISY
....is the hallmark of Republicans.

Considering all the garbage that constantly flows from Repugnants, IMO HOWARD DEAN can say ANYTHING he wants. Dean might just kick them in the teeth with quotes like these and expose their hypocrisy.
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maxrandb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 09:00 AM
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2. You Are Absolutely Right
but we won't see "that" covered in the media.

:wtf:

I found these in about 10 minutes this morning. Doesn't CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, or NBC have anyone on staff that understands the "internets"?

Liberal Media my ASS!
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maxrandb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 09:04 AM
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5. Oh, and I just though of something else
Maybe the media doesn't cover Republican hate speech because NO REPUBLICAN COMES OUT AND CONDEMNS THE BOMB THROWER!!!

The media likes one thing more than anything else. It loves, it thrives, it cannot survive without...wait for it...CONTROVERSY.

Effing Repukes don't need to condemn Howard Dean, or respond to his accusations. They have Democrats to do it for them.

:wtf:
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 09:48 AM
Response to Reply #5
12. BINGO
You are 100% right.

I've resolved to not criticize other Democrats, for even the worst of them are better than the best Republicans.
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dissent1977 Donating Member (795 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 04:07 PM
Response to Reply #12
26. I wouldn't go quite that far
I agree with many of Dean's recent comments which have brought him so much controversy (and interestingly a couple of the most controversial ones are statements of fact, not opinion. Demographics could show the GOP to be predominantly white and "Christian"). For this reason I don't like hearing Democrats attacking Dean for stating the obvious.

I however, believe there are times we must criticize people who call themselves Democrats. When a Republican calls themselves a Democrat and then tells me I have a choice, I say hell yeah I have a choice; I am voting Green. Just because they have a D behind their name does not mean they are pushing a progressive agenda. The pro-war, "free"-trade, corporate Democrats are holding back progressives in this country every bit as much as the Republicans are, and I am not going to sit by silently and watch them.
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 06:12 PM
Response to Reply #26
31. Fair enough
I won't abrogate my duty to call out Democrats when I think they are wrong.

My take is that this is a time when Democrats AND progressives of ALL persuasions should stand up against Bushco.

We can work the rest out later, however painfully.
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dissent1977 Donating Member (795 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 12:24 AM
Response to Reply #31
32. I agree with you there.
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 09:50 AM
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13. EXACTLY!!
That's why I wish the whiney Dems criticizing Dean would just STFU!

Idiots.
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maxrandb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 01:15 PM
Response to Reply #13
25. This Entire Controversy Could be Cleared Up Rather Quickly
All we need is for some media whore from the MSM to corner Dick Cheney and ask;

http://mediamatters.org/items/200503260001

"Mr. Vice President, you've appeared on the Rush Limbaugh Show several time. Rush has said 'Dems hope more Americans get killed in Iraq'. Do you support that statement?"

"Rush also said that Democrats hate America, and want us to fail in Iraq. Do you agree with that assessment?"

"Rush said that making election day a holiday wouldn't help the Dems because most of their voters don't work anyway. Do you agree with that statement?"

"Since you have taken the effort to appear on Rush's show, do you feel his type of hate speach is helpful to America?"

"Rush said that Democrats have more fear of Christians than they do of North Korea launching a nuclear weapon. Is that true Mr VP?"

Syndicated radio host Rush Limbaugh suggested that liberals "want this woman (Schiavo) to die because Christian conservatives want her to live," calling it "payback." Do you believe Mr Vice President that liberals want this woman to die"?

Limbaugh: Democrats are "aborting their own voters, and they have been for 30 years" Mr Vice President, Are Democrats guilty of killing their own voters?

You could go on forever.
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LightningFlash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 12:40 AM
Response to Reply #25
34. And you'd still barely skim the top. It's propaganda.
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rwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 09:01 AM
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3. Rush Limbaugh
Said recently: "Making election day a national holiday won't help Dems much because most of their voters don't work anyway".Now I know he is'nt the party chair, but he is nation wide radio and Armed Forces radio.The repubs must like him, Cheney has been on his show.
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sofaman1 Donating Member (37 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 11:05 AM
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18. Not excusing Limbaugh
but radio talk show hosts say some pretty nasty things. I remember Randi Rhodes saying something that shocked the hell out of me. She said that Cheney should make like Michael in the Godfather when he took Fredo out on the lake. He should take * out on the lake and (popping sound). <P>Radio personalities are entertainers primarily. They're going to say things for their entertainment value. I lend them no credence, right or left.
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maxrandb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 06:54 AM
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36. The Point Sofaman is
that Dick Cheney!! The "effing" second most powerful man in the world! Someone that I think any "reasonable" person would conclude is a LEADER IN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY has appeared numerous times on the Rush Limpballs and Sean Insanity radio shows.

Don't you think that his appearance on these shows is lending credibility to the non-stop hate, lies, and distortions that they spew out of their mouth, like teenagers that consumed too much coke and bacardi?

I think it is a fair question to ask of Ole' Dickey. Don't you?
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 05:40 PM
Response to Reply #3
29. That is one scuzzball that I hate.. I truly hate Limbaugh.
I can't think of any other person that has so negatively impacted the psyche of our Country in the past 10 years through rhetoric. The rotten bastard. Why the fuck isn't he in JAIL where he belongs?
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 05:40 PM
Response to Reply #3
30. self-delete dupe post. duh! n/t
Edited on Thu Jun-09-05 05:41 PM by progressivebydesign
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 09:03 AM
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4. My favorite
Howard Dean said a number of untrue and irresponsible things during the course of his candidacy, including accusing the President of knowing about the 9-11 attacks before they happened

ANother $25 for you Howie, I had forgotten about that one.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 09:22 AM
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6. That caught my eye, too.
What he actually said was something to the effect of the existence of a theory that bush knew.

These examples by the OP show what real hate speech is.
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maxrandb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 09:26 AM
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8. I For One
am grateful that we finally have a Democrat that is willing to kick these lousy "effs" in the teeth every now and then.

It's about "effing" time! Democrats sat back and took this crap for so long. Some even went so far as to appear on a show like Hannity's where, five seconds after they were off, Hannity would go back to describing Democrats as American hating terrorist, communist, socialist sympathizers.

It's kind of refreshing to have someone fight "fire with fire".
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 09:26 AM
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7. GOP are hypocrites as the day is long. Hypocrites and tribalism
makers. Oh - and ***holes!
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 09:28 AM
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9. And a few choice words from Grover Norquist, too!
Entire disgusting 'interview' on PBS Frontline here:
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/choice2004/interviews/norquist.html

"The Democratic Party is more problematic. The Democratic Party is made up of trial lawyers, labor unions, government employees, big city political machines, the coercive utopians, the radical environmentalists, feminists, and others who want to restructure society with tax dollars and government fiat.

On the left, they're not friends; they are allies, as long as there's more money coming in. But at the end of the day, they all want to use the government to bring money and power to them. Therefore, they are competing parasites; and if we succeed in stopping tax increases, they begin to turn on each other."

From "Norquist won't back down from comparing the Estate Tax to the Nazi Holocaust"
http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/1144.html

"Instead of backing off, Norquist decided to take the comparison one step further, insisting not only that the Estate Tax resembles the Holocaust, but that his critics are "socialists."

"The Nazis were for gun control, the Nazis were for high marginal tax rates," Norquist told the Forward. "Do you want to talk about who's closer politically to national socialism, the Right or the Left?" Norquist characterized his NPR comments as "entirely reasonable," the Forward reported, and added that "he would not hesitate to use Holocaust comparisons in the future."

The man is a loon. And were he just some random nutjob with a conservative ideology, Norquist's comments would be awful, but inconsequential. The fact remains, however, that Norquist has unparalleled influence at the highest levels of Republican politics and frequently contributes to the political agenda of the Bush White House."

Take your pick on all of these: "Articles about Grover Norquist and weekly right-wing coordination meetings:"
http://www.commonwealinstitute.org/information.html#weekly

Grover Norquist, prophet
http://www.enterstageright.com/archive/articles/0404/0404groverpower.htm
"He easily juxtaposed these positions with those of the left. Norquist regards their motives as being purely redistributionist. These are life's "coercive utopians" who want to give us toilets we can't flush and cars in which no family can fit. This is a coalition embodied by takers. He postulates that without an ever expansive gluttonous government, there would be no left at all. They're married to the government while we are often married to members of the opposite sex. "

Karl Rove on Meet the Press addressing Grover Norquist's comments (interview just after the 2004 election) and a good example of how the media controls the spin: http://msnbc.msn.com/ID/6430019/

MR. RUSSERT: I want to ask to you react to some comments made by a friend of yours, Grover Norquist, the leader of Americans for Tax Reform and a key White House ally. According to USA Today, "...noted the defeat of Senate Democratic leader Tom Daschle as particularly sweet. Daschle's political demise will prompt a half dozen other Democratic senators from Republican-leaning states to think twice before defying the president, Norquist says: `When Achilles died, the Greeks were in trouble.'"

MR. ROVE: My Greek mythology is not strong enough to--look Senator Daschle served the country well and ably and his state well and ably. The people of the state determined that they were going to make a change. It requires the Democrats to make a change in their leadership. But, look, there's a lot of able Democrats in this town. If they want to make a partisan battle of it, they will. But Grover sometimes overstates the case.

MR. RUSSERT: Well, try this one. This is another Grover Norquist. "Once the minority of House and Senate are comfortable in their minority status, they will have no problems socializing with the Republicans. Any farmer will tell you that certain animals run around and are unpleasant, but when they've been fixed, then they are happy and sedate."

Neuter the Democrats?

MR. ROVE: I don't think so. Look, the Democrats--the Senate is a 55-45. It takes 60 votes to get things done. The House, the Republicans have a good majority, but nonetheless there's a necessity and a need and a desire to work across party lines. <See? All better now. *swak*>

And he's got NRA Board of Directors credentials too!
http://www.nraleaders.com/grover-norquist.html
Grover Norquist
NRA Board of Directors

On why the Media doesn't know most Americans support gun rights:
"We don't have annual parades for gun owners so everyone can appreciate that gun ownership is an alternative lifestyle and look at how great we are." (He also insisted that liberals "don't want you (men) to date girls.")
--NRA Convention - as described by Steve Freiss on gay.com

On California's Proposition 209, a ballot measure that eliminated the state's affirmative action policy:
Affirmative action is "government racism" that is "particularly offensive to Jews and Asian Americans."
--The American Spectator

More at http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Grover+Norquist+liberals




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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 09:36 AM
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10. Thanks for the list
It's funny, but I don't any repuke senators criticizing his statements.

The senate Dems are pathetic spineless creatures that are lambs willing to be slaughtered.
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rwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 09:42 AM
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11. Don't forget bush*
calling the reporter "An Asshole" and cheney responding, yes, "Major League"
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maxrandb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 10:22 AM
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15. Or Dick Cheney telling Senator Levin
to "F&*k off" on the floor of the Senate. Don't remember every cable news show in the country providing non-stop coverage to Dick's rather unknind remarks.

Oh that's right! NO REPUBLICAN CAME OUT AND CONDEMNED OLE'DICKY FOR IT!!!!

:grr:
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Demrock6 Donating Member (717 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 10:22 AM
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14. Good work.
That is awsome you sent that out. I wish MSM would cover stuff that is actually news worthy.
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Mugsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 10:31 AM
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16. Love the Gillespie quotes. The Limbaugh/Hannity/etc quotes too easy.
Since Dean is the "official" appointed chairman, it only makes sense to quote his RNC doppleganger Ed Gillespie. Excellent.

But the Limbaugh and Hannity quotes are just more of the same Right-wing hypocrisy. No one ever suggested they should be more moderate.

I prefer to compare apples to apples. Adding in the rantings of well-established right-wing lunatics to defend Dean only suggests they are similar (two sides of the same coin), which only hurts him/us.

Don't compare Dean to Limbaugh, Hannity or O'Reilly.
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impoverished_penguin Donating Member (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 11:01 AM
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17. Dean is chair of DNC
His remarks are way off color for someone of his responsibility. Hannity and Moore are pundits and retain every right to make complete asses of themselves if they so choose.

It's a completely different situation when Dean makes blanket statements and racist remarks, because he is the ostensible leader of the democratic party, and his remarks are on behalf of his constituents.

People who refuse to criticize democrats for making stupid remarks are just as bad as republicans who refuse to criticize Bush for anything he does.
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maxrandb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 11:38 AM
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19. That's Why I Included mostly Quotes from an RNC Chair
Edited on Thu Jun-09-05 11:40 AM by maxrandb
But let me ask you something my friend(who I think may live under a bridge)

Dick Cheney is the Vice President of the United States! He is a Republican, is he not? Is it appropriate for him to appear on Hannity and Rush' show, as he has done several times?

Does his appearance on those shows, lend credibility to their comments? Does his appearance mean he associates himself with their remarks?

I think the fact is; you folks are so used to DEM's doing the Christian thing and turning the other cheek, you don't know how to handle a guy that gives as good, or better than he gets. Typical Bully. Real tough until someone stands up to you, then you go crying "Waaaaaaaahhhhhh, he's being mean to me". :nopity: :cry:

I look for much more from Dean.
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creeksneakers2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 05:30 PM
Response to Reply #17
28. The Fascist talk show hosts created Howard Dean
Things they said brought the anger. A lot of people are glad to hear Dean giving some of it back.
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maxrandb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 11:42 AM
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20. Is It Just Me, Or Are There Some Trolls Infecting This Thread?
You can tell how much someone is afraid by how loudly they protest.

I think Dean Scares the Hell out of them!
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Rainscents Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 12:05 PM
Response to Reply #20
21. AMEN!!! I hate to see Dean stop telling the truth!
Edited on Thu Jun-09-05 12:08 PM by Rainscents
Even Jesus got angry when people used God's temple for gambling and he went around throw things around and kicked everyone out of the God's Temple! Even Jesus had enough and he showed his anger!
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maxrandb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 12:43 PM
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23. Yes, But if Our Current Media were Around During Jesus' Time
They would have concentrated on the "mean-spiritedness" of Jesus' action at the Temple.

Then they would have questioned several apostles as well.

Media Whore: "Saint Peter, yesterday Jesus threw a bunch of people out of the temple and said they were desecrating the Temple. Do you support those actions?"

Saint Peter: "Well, I don't think Jesus' actions are particularly helpful right now. Most of the Sanhedrin are good people, so no I don't think I would have done the same thing".

Media Whore: "Saint Thomas, you've been a little skeptical of Jesus, do you have any comments about the incident yesterday at the Temple"?

Saint Thomas: "You know Tim, that's just Jesus being Jesus. Sometimes he gets so passionate, he says and does things I don't think he means. It certainly is not something I would have done, and I don't think it helps us since we believe so strongly in 'inclusion'"

Media Whore: Well there you have it Wolf. Up next on our 24 hour coverage we will look deeply into the giant fractions within the followers of Christ. Abraham Limbaughman will join us to explain how this will simply tear the apostles apart".
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ArkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 12:06 PM
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22. Google speach.
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 12:44 PM
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24. Great synthesys post.
nominated!
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 04:14 PM
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27. Where was Lieberman demanding an apology?
Oh yeah, he was too busy kissing Bush.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 12:29 AM
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33. These are nice but we have nothing to defend here. They are on the run
not us!
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chefgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 05:22 AM
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35. Great post!
An excellent compilation of quotes there.

There is also an excellent little piece on Huffington post about how Dems are doing the GOP's work for them.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/theblog/archive/jann-wenner/slamming-dean-the-democr_2399.html

Funny thing though, I NEVER heard any Republican villifying THEIR chairmen for any of their comments.


I just think its a case of the 'establishment' Dems thinking that THEY are 'the party', and its time someone kicked them in the ass and reminded them that WE are 'the party'.
Howard Dean seems to be doing a wonderful job of it, too!

WE, the people of Democratic party, are tired of being conciliatory to a Republican party who would take an inch and complain that we didnt give them a mile. Unfortunately, that kind of fighting spirit can make life hell for a Washington Democrat, and there are far too few of them who are willing to stick their necks out once they occupy their comfy seats of power (even if that power is defined and limited by the Republicans).

As far as I'm concerned, they can get behind their party chairman, and the people who ARE the party, or get the hell out of OUR way.

Howard Dean is exactly the kind of Democrat we sorely need! Go Howard!

-chef-


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maxrandb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 07:47 AM
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37. Here's Some More from an RNC Chair.
Edited on Fri Jun-10-05 07:54 AM by maxrandb
Here's something interesting that Haley said about Democrats practicing Christian bashing.

Could someone please point me to the links to the media coverage and the response of the prominent Republicans at the time. Thanks

http://www.skepticfiles.org/american/demcb.htm

"So with nothing else to talk about, Fazio adopted the new,
orchestrated Democrat campaign strategy of Christian bashing, the
left's preferred form of religious bigotry. Christian bashing will
backfire, so if Fazio and the Democrats keep it up, it will help
Republicans at the polls in November. Nevertheless, I think it is
deplorable a major political party considers religious bigotry an
acceptable campaign strategy."

Oh! And here's some more!!!

http://www.calpundit.com/archives/002427.html



The smiling guy in the middle is Haley Barbour, chairman of the Republican party from 1993-1997 and currently a candidate for governor of Mississippi. And where was Barbour when this picture was taken? Why, at the Black Hawk Barbecue and Political Rally, held on July 19 to raise money for — wink wink, nudge nudge — "private academy" school buses.

Still not clear on what the problem is? The BHBPR is sponsored by the fine gentlemen of the Council of Conservative Citizens, a bunch of well-known racist neanderthals based out of Missouri. I think most of my readers are probably aware of the CCC's handiwork, but in case you aren't you might want to visit their website and browse around. You can start with "In Defense of Racism," and then head over to "the TRUTH about Martin Luther King," and then finish up with "Angry White Female" and a report from the Mississippi chapter about how Abraham Lincoln was an imperialist warmonger.

Here's a copy of the flyer sent out by the RNC accusing Democrats of banning the Bible...Like I said before; "I report, you decide"

http://www.steveclemons.com/GOPMailer.htm

Will someone PLEASE point me to the links where the MSM asked any prominent Republican about the above statements and link to white supremacist groups.

Please post for me Lincoln Chaffe's comments about Haley Barbour.

Please post for me Senator Bill Frist's response to the claim that Democrats are practicing religious bigotry.

.....I'm.....Still.....Waiting.....



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MsUnderstood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 09:45 AM
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38. It doesn't justify Dean
To quote from my mamma "Two wrongs don't make a right" and even if we could ignore my mom's sage advice there is a stark difference here:

DEAN is the DNC CHAIRMAN attacking an entire political party. He said statements that are usually thrown out my talk radio hosts.

The initial comments found by googling and used to support dean's foul are not attacking an entire party they are attacking one person.

DEAN STEREOTYPED an entire party by his word choice. Yes he may have justified some of his comments later, but the fact is he messed up.

The worst part is, he GAVE THE REPUBLICANS A GIFT. What is everyone talking about? Not the DSM, not the war in Iraq, not the price of everthing skyrocketing, not even the jackson trial.

We are talking about Dean.

If dean wants to make it right, then he needs to take his newfound noteriety and do some good with it. Attack specific people in the party not the party as a whole. Talk about BUSH AND CHENEY and not the people that blindly, stupidly support him.
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maxrandb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 10:20 AM
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39. Please Tell Me What Dean Said that was Non-factual
Also, it appears that this is having the opposite effect of what you imply.

Recently, Reid and Dean met to roll-out some of the Democratic Party's agenda. There was almost as much media there as at the Jackson trial. Care to guess how many would have shown up if there wasn't any controversy.

He did not give the REPUBLICANS A GIFT. Some Dems, including you, are GIVING THE REPUBLICANS A GIFT.

Some of us are so sick of the carpet bombing from hate radio and Faux news, that we feel it is about past-time to take the gloves off.

I have worn the uniform of my country for over 21 years now. I can't even get an "effing" traffic or weather report in my car without first listening to myself being described as an "American hating, communist, terrorist sympathizing, French surrender monkey".

Am I PO'd? Your darn right I am. Has being the party of reason and "congeniality" worked? You take a look at the White House, Congress, and the Courts, and you tell me....HAS BEING NICE TO THESE PRICKS WORKED???!!!
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