Sixteen fucking Ninety Two! How Many US Dead Will it Take??

To STOP the Madness?? How many??

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050610/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq;_ylt=AgQPgzGjJHXJXhOYqvi2KUuGOrgF;_ylu=X3oDMTBhMW9xbjduBHNlYwNjaWQ3MTY-

5 Marines Killed in Iraq; 21 Bodies Found By PATRICK QUINN,

BAGHDAD, Iraq - Militants killed five U.S. Marines and authorities found 21 bodies Friday near the Syrian border, where American and Iraqi troops bore down in two recent major operations aimed at crushing a tenacious insurgency.

The victims, thought to be missing Iraqi soldiers, were shot repeatedly in the head and found blindfolded, their hands tied behind their backs. Three were beheaded.

The killings were a clear sign of the profound difficulties faced by U.S. and Iraqi forces in Anbar province around the dusty, lawless frontier town of Qaim, and their inability to seal the porous desert border with Syria despite major efforts to boost their military presence in the area.

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The Marines were killed Thursday in a roadside bombing while conducting combat operations near the volatile Sunni town of Haqlaniyah, 90 miles northwest of Baghdad, the military said. Their deaths brought to at least 1,689 the number of U.S. military members killed in Iraq since the war began in March 2003, according to an Associated Press coun


Military Fatalities: By Time Period

Period US UK Other* Total Avg Days
4 255 3 11 269 2.05 131
3 579 26 27 632 2.93 216
2 718 27 58 803 1.89 424
1 140 33 0 173 4.02 43
Total 1692 89 96 1877 2.31 814

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Time Periods Defined
Latest Fatality: Jun 09, 2005
2005: Iraqi Police and Guardsmen Deaths


Military Fatalities: By Month
Period US UK Other* Total Avg Days
6-2005 25 0 0 25 2.5 10

http://icasualties.org/oif/

That's the difference between now and Vietnam.

I think it will be the same with Iraq, whether there is a draft or not. Unless I'm missing it, the corporate media is currently not covering the fact that parents of some who have been killed in Iraq are outspokenly opposing the war; I have met some at anti-war rallies in D.C. I don't know how organized those parents are.

And there are no pictures yet, pictures of the maimed and dead are rarely being shown if ever...TV really brought Vietnam into peoples' living rooms.

This needless war is horrible.

are speaking out against the war. I'm aware of only one time when Bush had a closed door (no press allowed) meeting with a handful of parents who lost children. I'm sure he did all the talking.

As an aside, Minnesota Senator Becky Lourey, who recently lost her 40 something son in Iraq, was part of a group who hand delivered a resolution to Chimperor asking him not to wage war on Iraq.

Becky's a strong progessive and well respected in the MN legislature. I think when some time has passed for grieving she will be in Chimp's face in a big way.

and I believe US deaths have to be dozens a day vs the dozens a month we are seeing now. I can not fathom how AmeriKans can let this shit happen yet again for LIES!!

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If enough of us do, nobody else has to die for this idiotic adventure.

And only then after time.

If it gets up to 3,000, I think a lot of Americans are going to go on the warpath, especially if Iraq remains as FUBAR as it is right now.

I personally don't believe we have a snowball's chance in hell of turning this thing around. bush opened Pandora's box, and hope will not fly out this time. She's dead.

...movement during the Vietnam War.

Using that model, it will be 2017 before the antiwar movement takes to the streets to demonstrate against this war.

since Vietnam ended up with 58,000 U.S. casualties. But I wonder how you get "14 years" to jump-start the anitwar movement, seems a bit long to me. I guess you must be measuring the start of the war for the U.S. from France's loss at Dien Bien Phu (1954).

Also, it seems to me with this Iraq war just over 2 years long and just under 2,000 U.S. dead, we could fairly see it as a 1,000-a-year- dead war. If so, we'd have to get out to, say, 2033 before people would get mad, using your 30,000 figure.

Of course, as others here say, its all about the draft - once that hits, (if that hits), people will be in the streets.

...first combat-related death in 1956.

strikes.

How many more people have to die for George Bush's lie?

Another good bumper sticker!

I would like to thank you for your tireless efforts to keep everyone apprised of the real cost of this war.
Thanks.:applause:

I do it out of total frustration. I watched CNN today BRIEFLY mention the 5 dead US Marines for about 5 seconds! Then on to Michael Jackson for FOREVER!!! I fucking hate our US corporate Media!!

:banghead:

It is so wrong that it only has 2 stars (700 votes). They want to bury the truth before they bury our sons and daughters.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050610/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq; :cry:

http://www.startribune.com/stories/1762/5450843.html

Slain soldier from Mankato described as go-getter



Michael Fasnacht, 25, an Army Ranger from Mankato, Minn., was killed Wednesday in Iraq after being hit by a remote bomb while on patrol, his mother, Marny Fasnacht said. "When he decided to go into the Army, he chose the special forces because he wanted to train the hardest, test himself and give the absolute most for his country," Fasnacht's aunt said.

…

Fasnacht graduated first in his basic-training class. He told family members proudly that he had never lost a man in his unit. During a visit home last summer, he excitedly told his aunt that he earned the highest score on an Army rifle range and was fastest during a rope-climbing drill.

…

In a letter to his older brother, Sam, that was read on the air by a Mankato TV station, Michael Fasnacht wrote: "I have R and R leave in a few more weeks and then when I come home I have only four months left until I can come home for good."

…

Fasnacht was based out of Fort Benning, Ga., went into active duty in 2003 and became an Army Ranger a year later. Fasnacht's body is expected to be returned to Minnesota this weekend or early next week.

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it is just the beginning of what will later in the history of our earth be call simply the Oil Wars. Now it is called the war on terror or the war on tyranny..but it is just the Oil Wars..just the beginning...it may end when all of the oil is gone...but not before.

Sad but true.

:(

Here's a link to his memory:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=158x4928

That too many people have died?

Yes, ’n’ how many times can a man turn his head,
Pretending he just doesn’t see?

you laugh, but some people really believe this. because they are demons in the forms of man trying to kick start the apocalypse.

your CIC** failed you in the ultimate way. :(



This undated photo provided by the Burri family shows Army Spc. Eric T. Burri, 21, of Wyoming, Mich., who died Tuesday, June 7, 2005, in Baghdad, the Department of Defense announced Thursday. He was assigned to the 623rd Quartermaster Co., 1st Corps Support Command at Fort Bragg, N.C. (AP Photo

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In this undated photo provided by the Seymour family, U.S. Marine Lance Cpl. Devon Seymour, of St. Louisville, Ohio, is seen. Seymour was killed by a roadside bomb in Iraq on Thursday just months after his father returned from service in Afghanistan. Seymour was one of five Marines killed in western Iraq, said Master Gunnery Sgt. Stephen Walter, public affairs official for Lima Company 3rd Battalion 25th Marine Regiment out of Columbus, Ohio. (AP Photo/Seymour Family via The Newark Advocate)

Sgt. Roberto Arizola, Jr., 31, of Laredo, Texas, died June 8 in Baghdad, Iraq, when an improvised explosive device detonated near his HMMWV.

Per icasualties.org

Rest in Peace soldier. Vaya con Dios.

US Death Toll 1693, all details at the below site.

http://icasualties.org/oif /

How is this possible? Will it stop going up if I stop looking? (No) How many more moms and dads, wives or husbands and children are going to lose a loved one before AWOL understands how badly he's hurting the best of America?

I still find this shocking! Where is the outrage AmeriKa? 28 Dead in 11 Days! For What exactly?

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Military Fatalities: By Time Period

Period US UK Other* Total Avg Days
4 258 3 11 272 2.06 132
3 579 26 27 632 2.93 216
2 718 27 58 803 1.89 424
1 140 33 0 173 4.02 43
Total 1695 89 96 1880 2.31 815

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Time Periods Defined
Latest Fatality: Jun 09, 2005
2005: Iraqi Police and Guardsmen Deaths


Military Fatalities: By Month
Period US UK Other* Total Avg Days
6-2005 28 0 0 28 2.55 11

Carrie French's picture isn't up yet so I plucked one off the 'net.

I wonder how many parents, siblings and children are wondering if their sacrifice was worth it.

http://www.beezone.homestead.com/womenVETS.html

Carrie French, a National Guard member, graduated from high school last year.

or their only parent serving. It is a disgrace what the USA has done to these families. Look at that poor child. :(

I despise Americans who support Bush. They are accomplices in the war on poor people in Iraq.

Iraqis are living without the bare necessities, without medical care, electricity or clean water. Without schools, jobs, and a sense of security, or hope for the future. We have taken it all away and left them grieving.

And what have they done to us? Nothing! Absolutely Nothing.

What is wrong with America?

scary

speak in a dissident voice and carry signs once in a while?

The Patriot Act makes it legal.

The chimp and it's handlers have cranked up the death machine, it
s not going to stop at a measly 1697 American dead. No, when it starts up men lose control and it won't stop until it's had it's fill.
We are in a war for oil, right now those with knowledge can see it for what it is, and it's not going to stop after the oil is gone. We've made enemies of people with long memories, this is going to go om for quitw some time.

why stop when you're on a roll

that they are dying for lies, more soldiers will die.. and those who believe Bush will tell themselves they are safer with each death.

in too many American minds, it's their safety pitted against some strangers death....

nevermind the safety is a lie....they can 'feel' safe, wave the flag, and "support the troops"...all from the comfort of their homes.

They are cowards. Not because they don't enlist....but because they refuse to take responsibility for a corrupt government.

I'm sure the patriotic fervor will be evident then.

This is tough reading this thread as the death toll rolls. I'm afraid to read on.
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neocon's PNAC agenda, that's how many).

The names of two marines killed yesterday and an army soldier killed today have not yet been released.

I sure feel bad for the people that hear about the deaths and have family over there. I know they will not sleep tonight.

... June 6 2005.

That is 26 in less than 6 days.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x3742495#3836193

As I add each name, I say their name, aloud. I do this task slowly because all I have to offer each of these now dead fellow citizens is the privilege to know the sound of their name since I will never have the privilege of meeting them.


Peace.


www.missionnotaccomplished.us - don't stop at 500,000 signatures; don't stop at 10,000,000 signatures; don't stop until Bush and the neoconsters are indicted and prosecuted for their heinous crimes against humanity and our Constitution.

EVERYTHING we read or hear is vetted by our esteemed Pentagon...:sarcasm:

The answer, my friend, is blowin" in the wind.....


Iraq is Arabic for VietNam