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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-03 05:51 AM
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The Power of Words at the Speed of Light
Edited on Sun Jul-13-03 11:05 PM by bobthedrummer
The power of words at the speed of light are filtered through our perceptions, through our human brains, our central nervous system/CNS.

When we sleep, our CNS operates more at the primal brainstem level, which can reactivate higher functioning to respond to danger.

Our CNS responds to all exchanges of energy with the environment, both environment and CNS can be manipulated by technology, which has effects on human behavior and emotions.

Technology changes how we communicate, and what we perceive.

Today we communicate at hyper-velocities, symbolically, not only words and phrases- but symbols {9-11}, and acroymns {BFEE, CIA, WMD} that are filtered through our perceptions about what we see or hear.

Our perceptions are always being manipulated for various reasons-many of them {or all, if you prefer} political.

This is part and parcel of recorded human history, {proven by scientific experimentation as the way other organisms that have a CNS respond to stimuli.} This is reality.

I remember the fears and associations of my childhood in the 1950's, the unknown borderline hysteria of godless communism, nuclear war, the need to protect us from "brain-washing" really scared me, because I knew that communist bastards wanted to wash my brain-and, in my experiential references to that point of my development, I knew that had to hurt even more than getting shampoo in my eyes!

It was so horrible, and there were always dangers that were out to steal my freedom as an American. Yes, I feared the brain-washing communist menace would get us, after all there were spies and traitors everywhere, I saw them on tv and in the movies but I knew we would kill them with our superior bombs, most of all our freedom would never be given up.

So, today I fail to understand how anyone could challenge the reality of brain-washing. Mind control.

Could it be because of the conditioned responses we have to certain powerful words that cause us to reject the reality they contain?

I really dislike the term mind control, but it is very real.

Here is a true documented case to consider. It centers around American Technology Corp.ATCO, of San Diego. It has a neoconservative link direct to the Pentagon.

In fact, one of it's executives, Senior V.P. Terry J. Conrad, as recently as 5-30-2003, was caught up in insider trading.
http://biz.yahoo.com/t/14/1529.html

Among other products, ATCO has a US Patent on HSS, sound that can be heard only inside your head.
http://www.raven1.net/atc-ag98.htm

A US military contract was awarded to these criminals on 8-2-98
http://www.raven1.net/atcag982.htm

Under HOMELAND SECURITY, all kinds of anti-terrorist equipment contracts are being awarded, American Technology Corp. products have been going to the Pentagon since 1998, these criminals make a ton of $$$ based on fear, but marketed as SAFETY
http://cryptome.org/dhs071103.txt

The technology to produce hearing voices inside your head holds a US Patent from American Technology Corp., who's Senior VP, Terry J. Conrad was busted for insider trading, again, on May 5th and ATCO has been awarded contracts by US military since August 1998. These type of products are purchased for use in anti-terrorism SAFETY provisions under HOMELAND SECURITY.

Here is a link to one of the most terrible cases of murder possible, a mother killing her child. She claimed she did it to prevent unkown US government agents from subjecting her children to her perceptions. Please read this, as the attorneys involved in the case made some serious discovery findings.
http://raven1.net/hejazi.htm

Any comments about mind control?





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annagull Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 11:08 PM
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1. I appreciate the topic, bobthe drummer,
Edited on Sun Jul-13-03 11:10 PM by annagull
but I really can barely wrap my head around all the shit coming out in the press right now, much less how my mind might be being controlled. :evilfrown:
I think I'll put on some John Cage and let that control my mind for a while! :hi:

onedit: actually, I would like to discuss this more another time--sorry for the tone of my post, I guess I'm tired but I do have a theory about how we are in 'Vietnam sped up to the speed of sound'. Maybe I'll start a thread tomorrow.
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 11:31 PM
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2. Vietnam war saw field testing of mind control and exotic weapons
there was a lot of human experimentation, many Vietnam vets and their families are well aware of this. Many vets of all wars were experimented on, and then told they were nuts. Then abandoned.

Robert J. McNamara brought us what was then called "the electronic battlefield", but it wasn't just US, of course. The USSR also was developing these types of systems.

There is evidence of a covert weapons race between US/USSR, which we won.
http://www.adacomp.net/~mcherney/thomas.html

http://www.adacomp.net/~mcherney/nonlethal.html

There was a working paper done for the European Parliament that has solid documentation of a lot of these types of technologies, they were concerned to say the least about the possibility of abuse-this stuff is quite real, can't undo it, but it could be put to positive use, it depends on who controls it.
http://www.datafilter.com/mc
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annagull Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 11:37 PM
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3. Thanks! will bookmark for later
Lots of good info there--just not for me tonite!! :-)
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 11:40 PM
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4. Penny for your thoughts. MK/ULTRA and Sirhan Sirhan.

You got that right, brother bobthedrummer! The arch-criminals against humanity behind the glorious sock-stuffing puppet truly are monsters. The idea that they would beam sounds, "Thoughts," into the noggins of the unsuspecting is not surprising. Nor is their desire to make a buck on the technology, legally or illegally. What surprising is the relative few number of Americans who know about it and are willing to do something about it.
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-03 12:35 AM
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6. It seems to be a huge part of PNAC also
I've been posting about this since I hit the Internet, May 2001.
My purpose is to reduce fear through education about it.

IMHO and life experiences this was the most taboo subject in US.

Not any more. No more fear. The neoconservative traitors wanted to eliminate all the programs that stemmed from one of our greatest President's FDR. "The only thing we have to fear, is fear itself."

The only thing the neoconservative's have to fear is US. We are taking back our government through our Constitution, not mindless evil savages, anarchy or any of their worst racist nightmares. I wonder what they're thinking about tonight? How about spending life in one of those Halliburton Corrections facilities.drip, drip, drip

Dennis Kucinich is the only Democratic Presidential candidate to even reference these very real systems,in the text of the original Space Preservation Act of 2001/HR2977. The revised Space Preservation Act of 2002 had lost all references to exotic weapons. I would trust DK with authority over these technologies. Just another reason to vote for him. He's always been for the people, not his political career.
http://www.raven1.net/govptron.htm
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-03 09:51 AM
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12. Kucinich is a "people person."

As well as being a smart, honest guy, Kucinich is most astute politically. And that makes him OK with me, too. If Kucinich is the Democatic nominee, I'll support him 100-percent.

FMI: Has DK stated he'd go after the BFEE or investigate the assassinations of John and Robert Kennedy and Martin Luther King Jr? Judging by his record of supporting the good guys, I'm pretty sure he would.

BTW: Going after the Secret Government is my reason for supporting John Kerry. He is on record, since coming back from Vietnam, of doing what it takes to get these crooks out of power. Same thing in the Senate, he made the connections between Iran-Contra and drug-running and BCCI and systemic political corruption.
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julka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 11:50 PM
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5. ooo-OOOO-ooo
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-03 12:39 AM
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7. That line has now been disconnected
Edited on Mon Jul-14-03 12:46 AM by bobthedrummer
they didn't plan for that either.
drip, drip, drip...
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-03 01:24 AM
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8. Any DU attorneys interested in a well documented case of the use
of an individual that claims protection as some type of federally protected agent involved in crimes against humanity please PM me-this is no hoax or joke of any type. This is MK/ULTRA related.

The individual was the subject of two Federal Grand Jury investigations in Milwaukee, WI. in 1970-never charged.

The indiviual appeared on the NBC Tom Snyder late night show as a "good guy" bounty hunter 2 times-1979-80.

The individual drugged and kidnapped, tortured, and committed a witnessed murder in Tennessee in 1969, was apprehended and held in Georgia then released.

The same individual was present in Washington D.C. at the time of homeless activist Mitch Snyder's "suicide"

Much documentation by many local law enforcement agencies.

Has stalked a witness to murder for 34 years.

A lot of living people desire to bring this individual to justice.
This is what is in the shadow government. Federally protected serial killers.
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-03 01:34 AM
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9. Also any DU journalists interested in this story PM me
Edited on Mon Jul-14-03 01:36 AM by bobthedrummer
kick it up, this is no joke.
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-03 02:44 AM
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10. There is no statute of limitations for murder
in The United States of America.
Unless you are protected by what is in the bowels of the shadow government.

The time for that to end is now. Post 8 is only a brief.

This is the reality that an unknown number of US citizens, their loved ones and law enforcement are up against.

The only help offered in this particular case was the promise of a concealed handgun permit.

I would think there are people here that can do better than that.
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-03 09:42 AM
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11. I know this individual. Many law enforcement folks know him.
Any viewers of the old Tom Snyder NBC program saw him presented as a "good guy" bounty hunter, {using the alias Tiny Boyles} twice in 1979-80. When I spoke to Deborah Allen {Tom Snyder's mgr} about 12 years ago she remembered him. Hell's Angel's Oakland Chapter members from around 1961-64 remember him.

This is what is in the bowels of the shadow government. Serial killers.

If the climate for bringing this person to justice isn't now, then when?
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