Did the secret vote on the Patriot Act take place after Sensenbrenner

illegally shut down the hearing? I've seen stories on both, but nothing that puts the time line together.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x1542288
Secret vote on Patriot Act angers some conservatives

http://www.house.gov/apps/list/press/fl20_schultz/judgavelledoff.html
US Rep tells how Sensenbrenner violated both House rules and laws in shutting down democracy.


edit for spelling

and the other the Senate.

I watched the Sensenbrenner hearing rerun on C-SPAN... his behavior was shameful

WASHINGTON - A closed-door vote by the Senate Intelligence Committee to expand law enforcement powers under the USA Patriot Act is prompting sharp criticism from some conservative leaders who are otherwise among the most vocal allies of President Bush and the Republican leadership.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x1542288

I think I remember it like a week or two back. A couple of people walked out of it too.

This appears to be a blatant power play close to a coup.
Amazing how History is repeated.
For a review of history:

When Hitler was appointed in January 1933, Germany was a democracy. Germany had fair elections; nobody had their right to vote abused; there were numerous political parties you could vote for etc. To pass a law, the Reichstag had to agree to it after a bill went through the normal processes of discussion, arguments etc. Within the Reichstag of January 1933, over 50% of those who held seats were against the Nazi Party. Therefore it would have been very unlikely for Hitler to have got passed into law what he wanted. Many saw Hitler as a fall-guy politician who would have to shoulder to blame if things got worse under his leadership.

Hitler had promised a general election for March 1933. This would have been, in his mind, the perfect opportunity for him to show all politicians who opposed him where the true loyalties lay in the German people. In fact, 1932 had shown Hitler that there was a possibility that support for the Nazis had peaked as their showing in the November 1932 election had shown. Anything other than a huge endorsement of Hitler and the Nazi Party would have been a disaster and a gamble which it is possible that Hitler did not want to take.

One week before the election was due to take place, the Reichstag building burned down. Hitler immediately declared that it was the signal for a communist takeover of the nation. Hitler knew that if he was to convince President Hindenburg to give him emergency powers - as stated in the Weimar Constitution - he had to play on the old president's fear of communism. What better than to convince him that the communists were about to take over the nation by force?

see link: http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/Nazi_Germany_dictatorship.htm

Senslessbringer had the hearing early on Friday morning.

I tried to say that the attention was being diverted at a time when we needed to be looking at the expansion of this (no-rights-for-us) patriot act. They have pretty much raped our rights when we were looking the other way.