What are your thoughts on Clinton?

Open-ended question.

Smart!

drives republicans insane. :evilgrin:

Tried to do good...
A uniter, not a divider

aside from maybe Kennedy.

On foreign policy, I think that Clinton followed a similar playbook from the Bush White House. Clinton was very reluctant to go war, but he wasn't shy about using force when he had to. I think his foreign policy had a greater European focus (:re Bosnia and Kosovo).

President Clinton was the best president of my lifetime (I'm 50). It was so frustrating to watch the constant rw harrassment he had to put up with. Hillary will make a great president, and the rw will go wild.
mournindove

I'm 45 and I've got to say that no president ever inspired me the way that he did. You could tell just by listening to him that he genuinely cared about those less fortunate in society. Yeah, I know that the RW hated him and a lot of Nader folks like to trash him because they think that he should have done more but I'd give just about anything to see him back in the WH right now.

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Perfect? No. But neither is the shrub and he is certainly not brilliant.

I wish she were running in 2004 instead of 2008.

So now you've got a few bites - why do you ask??

and whether he was too moderate/conservative or not.

There was a reference to Michael Moore saying Clinton was the best Republican President.

I think he had some flaws and did some things I don't agree with. But he had something Reagan didn't have and neither Bush had/has - his heart was in the right place. This has always been my feeling, and I'm encouraged to read that Helen Thomas, who met him face to face regularly during his presidency, used the exact same words to describe him - "his heart is in the right place."

One more thought: I miss him. :(

except no need to miss her because she's still in office. :-)

There are somethings I couldn't stand about the man, but there were other things that made me so damn proud to be a liberal. He's a genius. Incredibly talented politician. And so full of charisma. :-)

Clinton is the best in my book. I didn't like Hillary at first but she grew on me. In fact, Clinton would not have won the WH had it not been for Mrs. Clinton. This woman had ambitions, so it was inevitable for those two to hook up. I am sure it was rocky a few times between the two with Bill being a womanizer and all but for better or for worse.

I wouldn't want Bill as a husband but I'll take him as a president anyday!

he is the most charismatic person I've ever met.

He was a great president and will be remembered that way (my prediction is that his impeachment will be seen as a coup attempt, as is the recall in Calif. Why don't we do it to them? Nevermind. I know.)

He was way more conservative than I am, I'm not sure if it was what he believed or that he had to compromise. I hated welfare reform with a passion but it has had some good results (not all good, on balance, was/is a good thing although I fear the GOP will dismantle all the good stuff this year.)

Do you ever think that what we say about Bush is exactly what they said about Clinton?

No matter how many socks they use, they can't fool us. ;-)

if I had the opportunity. Despite his little problem, he's got so much else going for him.

He did what he said he was going to do ...
He Kept his promises to us ..
I'm glad I voted for him .

Mike Malloy says Clinton was the best Republican president of the 20th century. I don't disagree with much of what Malloy says, but Clinton really was a Democrat. The health care proposal especially is a lofty, noble goal that NO Republican would EVER propose. And why is it, do you suppose, that Republicans fought tooth and nail against that noble goal? Nancy Skinner on ieamericaradio.com said two or three weeks ago that William Kristol circulated a memo among Republican higher-ups in 1993 committing $50 million, and more if necessary, to an advertising blitz aimed at defeating the universal health coverage goal. The reason Kristol gave in the memo is that Republicans feared that if it passed, it would solidify support for Democrats among the Democratic voter base. Think for a moment about what this means. It means that Republicans fought tooth and nail against that wonderful thing Clinton, a true DEMOCRAT, was trying to accomplish for the American people, not because they were afraid that it would FAIL, but because they were afraid that it would SUCCEED, and a DEMOCRATIC president would get credit for it!

Republicans are like the guys in the hold of the sinking ship who keep pulling the people ahead of them off the ladder. Republicans are truly nasty people, I tell you.

Ron

If you look at the overall condition of the country while he served, you could argue he was the best peacetime president we have ever had. I don't love everything he did, a bit too centrist for me, and I despise his carpetbagging wife but overall I think he did well. In light of all that's happened since he's looking even better. I'd give anything to have him back right now. Even having her in the Oval Office would give me a good feeling, knowing he's somewhere in the WH.

but I wish he hadn't fallen into the Monica trap. It disgusts me that he let them get him. I know it was no one's business, but he knew what he was dealing with.

of the Presidents who's administrations I've been through. He had so much promise and personal charisma. If only he had been able to curb his sexual desires and if only the republicans would have worked with him instead of totally against him, there is no doubt in my mind he would have been the greatest President ever. Smirky McCokespoon? Worst-president-ever.

"...If only he had been able to curb his sexual desires..."

That wouldn't have made any difference at all. If it hadn't been Monica, it would have been something else. Republicans were going to go after Clinton NO MATTER WHAT, even if they had to MAKE SOMETHING UP to go after him for ... oh yeah, that's right, they DID make up a whole bunch of stuff to go after him for. They were going after him in any event. Because that's just the kind of people Republicans are. They are thoroughly nasty people, I tell you.

Look what happened to Gore! They were NOT going to find any sex scandals on HIM, nor any other kind of scandal either. Okay, there was one little thing about a Buddhist temple that apparently might have constituted a technical violation of some arcane campaign finance law, but even so, what that was REALLY about was just Republicans trying to keep Democrats from having money to run against Republicans with. Blumenthal has something to say about that on pages 284 and 285 of "The Clinton Wars." Anyway, Gore had SO MUCH integrity and was such an honest and scrupulous public servant for his 20+ years of public service that even the Republican pseudoscandal-detecting and -manufacturing machine could find NOTHING on him. SO WHAT DID THEY GO AFTER HIM FOR? He was "stiff" and "wooden" and "sighed" too much in the debates and they criticized him for the way he dressed and did his hair and on and on with silly fluff like this, ad infinitum, ad nauseum.

If silly nonsense like this had been all they could have gone after Clinton for, THEY STILL WOULD HAVE GONE AFTER HIM. And they would have made up for the lack of substance in these "criticisms" by using repetition and volume in vocalizing them. They would have relentlessly pounded and hammered this B.S. into the consciousness of the American electorate, on Hannity and Limbaugh and Faux and all of the other corporate-controlled right-wing media. No matter how silly it is, they make it work by repetition and volume until it reaches the point where even if it is silly, it seeps subliminally into Americans' subconsciouses until it actually seems to sound "right" to them. This is one of Republicans' primary propaganda tools, this repetion and volume that they use in spreading their B.S. And it's what they did to Gore and Clinton, and what they're doing now to other Democrats.

Republicans are thoroughly nasty people, I tell you.

Ron

He ranks highly in the previous millenium, too.

Basically.

eom

I will defend him on his domestic issues to the death thats one thing my stupid right wing friends dont understand. I like the man and his wife and daughter and admire where he came from and then became the best president of my lifetime. On second note I dont see why so much venom for him and his wife and Al Gore the rw nuts said shes even worse than those too and he had the nerve to call her a pig oh yeah what do you know man. I swear those two are back in the dark ages sometimes.

The bottom line is he helped this country grow and helped a lot of people in his 8 years as President.
My only regret is that I was too young to vote for him in either election. I learned from him that the Republicans are possibly the most selfish, petty beasts on the planet, wasting taxpayers' money to find out who gave him head. I could care less about that stuff.
I have nothing but found memories of Mr.Clinton. When I heard him speak, I felt like he knew what he was doing. I felt safe. I felt proud to be an American.
None of these things can be applied to the current President...
In conclusion, he is one of my idols who made me realize I was a liberal.

Voted for him twice.

("trust Tony") and Hillary's vote, waiting to hear what they both say about the situation now--will they continue to enable and cover for Bush?

Used to revere them, now don't trust them.

Clinton unlike bush and many republicans, understood that even though both sides dont agree on how america should be run, that we ARE all americans. He did some things that very republican-ish that drove me mad and the right hated him even more..For that i cannot understnad..But for the most part he cares about all americans and wanted us to do well..And we did.. ANd he was libiral on many issues.
But that makes a good democrat i think..we are not mindless biranwashed zombies like the bush cult are..We can disagree with our leaders to help make america a better place for all of us..Not just the republicans and the bush buddys like our current admin..I dissagreed with clinton many times but all and all i think he did a very good job and MAN i wish he was still in the white house..ANd i know many repubs secretly wish that as well

gears if a better way was shown. Came into office wanting to enact social legislation aimed mainly at those in need. When convinced that the best thing that could be done for a majority of Americans was to reduce the deficit he focused on it and got the national deficit(not the debt) in the black for the first time in 30 years.Result: peace and prosperity which was actually the result of Reagan's trickle down economic policy finally kicking in.Just kidding.
I'd like to shake his hand and thank him for eight great years.