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Robin Hood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 11:59 PM
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Tonight, Bush really gave me the impression that he is not in control.
It was hard to watch him struggle for words and ideas as if he just thought of them for the first time. It was as if he never entertained the ideas that have been imposed on US and the world by his administration. It all seemed new to him.

Nothing came easily off the top of his head, and whatever did, made no sense what so ever. I really think that this guy is just a deer caught in the head lights. And Richard Perle and Co. are the on-coming truck.

Don't get me wrong, puppet or not I don't have any sympathy for him. An accomplice to murder is just as guilty as the murderer. I think the fact that this DUDE is so incompetent is even more reason why during these times of great trials and tribulations. It is imperative that someone like Clark/Dean is the best choice for this country.

No more puppet governments in America.
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 12:06 AM
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1. No question he's in over his head. His handlers can only do so much
Edited on Tue Sep-23-03 12:08 AM by oasis
and now they have to deal with his delusions that he is embarked on a devine mission.
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Robin Hood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 12:10 AM
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3. He could barely keep from smirking
everytime he shored up his base with religious rhetoric. Did you also catch how Brit Humerless brought up his oval office desk as a reminder of what Clinton did there. And then tried to align himself with JFK. Echhh, give me a break.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 12:16 AM
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8. Can you remember the gist of it
Clinton? JFK?
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Robin Hood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 12:22 AM
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12. Yeah,
Brit Humerless asks him about his desk in the oval office and all of the presidential desks that he could of chosen from why did he choose that one. The point is, why bring up the desk in the first place? Who cares? And why show pictures of little john peeking out of the desk and try to portray yourself as Kennedy?

It was blasphemous. I'll tell you why they brought up the desk! To try and smear Clinton one more time and paint bush as some clean moral leader.
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 12:08 AM
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2. THE SON OF A BITCH LAUGHED WHEN ASKED
when these jobs would appear...

but I already ranted about this in another thread...
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Robin Hood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 12:13 AM
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4. Nothing wrong with repeating it here.
Edited on Tue Sep-23-03 12:14 AM by Liberal_Guerilla
That little laughter is the truth. He also laughed in an interview that Dan Rather did on Air Force One. Rather asked him about shock and awe and bush chuckled as if he was a child killing cats again. I was disgusted.

And then tonight he tried to paint this picture of how much he gives a shit, yeah right.

Trust me, I am un-employed and looking for a job right now is virtually impossible. Tonight, he laughed in my face after kicking me in the nuts.
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janekat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 12:32 AM
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17. Bush killed cats????!!!!!
is that true? I know a lot of cat-fanatics who would not vote for him on that issue alone. I'm not kidding...
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 01:10 AM
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26. Frist killed cats
Junior stuck firecrackers up frogs' asses.
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Robin Hood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 01:24 AM
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31. Sorry,
i get the two atrocities mixed up.
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lebkuchen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 01:47 PM
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58. I thought Bush shot doves.
He never was big on peace symbols. Talked a great line, though, good enough for the dumb-struck rightwingers.
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RapidCreek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 03:21 AM
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47. Ah yes and now he's graduated to sticking
Edited on Tue Sep-23-03 03:26 AM by RapidCreek
firecrackers up Iraqi's asses. Politics...the perfect hiding place for a psychopathic killer. Why go the socially unacceptable route of murdering a person here or there in your basement, when you can murder thousands with the stroke of a pen, then bask in applause. Granted it's not as viscerally gratifying as blood on your own hands can be...but one makes up for that let down with shear volume.

RC
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Don_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 02:00 AM
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37. He Only Tortured Frogs As A Kid
As I recall or, at least, that is what he was caught at.

"He only laughed AS IF he were killing cats." is what was said.
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janekat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 01:50 PM
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59. Too bad - I was going to turn a bunch of cat lovers on him....
I also post on a "Cats with Chronic Renal Failure": forum and these people are waaaay beyond being cat lovers.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 12:14 AM
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5. How "Braveness" of him to reveal how Dumb he is on National TV
Come, help me, tears already from laughing my guts out
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Robin Hood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 12:17 AM
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9. lol..
Getting you ab exercises tonight.
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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 12:14 AM
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6. Afterwards, David Gergen was appalled
that * said he doesn't read the papers – that he relies on his aides to tell him the news. Gergen said he's worked with numerous presidents and all of them were consumed by the morning news, even Reagan – after he read the funnies.
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Robin Hood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 12:15 AM
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7. Which affirms my suspicions.
That he is just a puppet and not in charge in anyway.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 12:23 AM
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13. Maybe the Little Turd from Crawford IS dyslexic.
Or he never learned to love reading, which is worse.
In a (p)resident, not reading the news for oneself is inexcusable —
THAT IS UNLESS ONE KNOWS WHAT'S GOING TO BE NEWS IN ADVANCE.
LIKE ON 9-11.



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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 12:38 AM
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20. He doesn't read newspapers....
Edited on Tue Sep-23-03 12:49 AM by kentuck
....and he doesn't read intelligence reports..The picture is becoming quite clear....
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Kool Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 01:22 AM
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30. Because the dumb son-of-a-bitch
probably can't read! Jesus, it's appalling how proud he is of being stupid.
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 01:25 AM
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33. What I find most disturbing is that he flaunts his stupidity.
It's almost as if he knows he's a dumbass and truly doesn't care.
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 01:19 AM
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28. Wait a minute... I did not see the interview...
Edited on Tue Sep-23-03 01:26 AM by VolcanoJen
... but I've always admired Gergen, as a non-whore who served administrations out of a non-partisan desire to contibute to his government. He's a good guy.

So, when I saw your post, kskiska, and saw Gergen's name, my ears pricked up. And the, I read that Bush admits he doesn't read the newspapers.

Are you fucking serious???? POTUS can't find the time, energy or burning desire to learn about the world he's apparently in charge of?

I am so sickened and shocked and mortified, even though I knew it all along... but he freaking admitted it???

Dean, Clark and Kerry better get a video of this right quick. It's going to make one helluva campaign ad come next fall.

Can't you see it now? "George W. Bush. He doesn't even read the newspapers. If he did, he'd realize..." Then, a quick cut to newspaper headlines about the number of dead coalition forces in Iraq, the plummeting economy, the monstrous deficit, the devastating unemployment...

Hey, McAuliffe... are you paying attention?

ON EDIT: Spelled kskiska's name correctly, and clarified my thoughts, and stuff. :-)
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berry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 01:15 PM
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56. It's not only that he doesn't read the newspapers.
He admitted that he doesn't listen to or watch any radio or tv news either. He smirked at BH, saying he couldn't even watch FOX because all news, by nature (he said), is biased. So he gets the "pure" news (like from the intelligence reports one assumes) all wrapped up and in bite size pieces, from Condi mainly.

This topic started when he was asked what he thought of the Dem candidates. He said he was too busy doing the people's business to watch any debates. He's never heard what any of them have to say--he'll wait until it's just one candidate, and then he hopes to elevate the discourse by his civility (as opposed to the "bashing" the Dems are doing on him--as if he hadn't ever bashed McCain! I'm trying not to insert editorial comment as I relate this--saves putting quotes around every hypocritical word--but you all get it). It was also a good chance to get in a dig at the media--especially as his poll numbers are falling.

I didn't hear Gergen's reaction, but I've been thinking about this ever since I heard it. I too was shocked (but on reflection not surprised). He really IS a sock-puppet. He really does live in a bubble, and he seems to really believe what he is told--he appeared to believe that his view of the world was perfect because he was spoon-fed (not his word, of course) the un-biased "truth". This is SOOOO scary. It will also be his defense if he's ever brought up on charges--which makes me wonder if he was telling the truth about this. I do believe he reads nothing. But the tv? hmmm. Maybe he lied. But if so, he lied emphatically, and on purpose. The question is why he would want to lie about that. Oh well....
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SuffragetteSal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 12:20 AM
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10. I was embarassed for him
and for us and how we look to the world, as he stumbled and seemed nervous with his fragmented half answers. Frankly, I had to leave the room.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 12:20 AM
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11. Gosh are you 'guys' ever cruel
Don't cha know how hard it is for him to remember what they told him to say? It must be hard to have half your brain 'membering and the other half tryin' to figger out what to say if you don't 'member.

They better get Karen back right away...he did better under her programming.
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candy331 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 12:24 AM
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14. Where
did you ever think he was in control? Is his wife as dumb as he is? Does she have any influence with him? I guess not.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 12:34 AM
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18. I'm being cynical because I don't respect him. His wife, on
the other hand, appears to be quite intelligent and very articulate. She would be a better president.
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Don_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 12:43 AM
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21. His Wife???
That "lump of meat" that shares his bed?

Victor Ashe would have more influence.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 12:24 AM
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15. Even Karen musta figured out she in over her head. Texas was one thing
DC is another.
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dfong63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 12:45 AM
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22. he should do like Clark - "Help, Mary!"
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 01:32 AM
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35. Actually
it's "Mary, help!"

Do you think he'll yell that during the debates?
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Robin Hood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 02:30 AM
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43. He runs the country with a hell Mary.
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 12:32 AM
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16. The thought that he might lose it is a bit, er, scary
Dry drunks aren't known for their ability to handle stress. He's a textbook example.
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Marlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 12:37 AM
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19. Did you notice
Brit had his legs crossed but Bush had both feet on the floor,
legs kind of spread and every so often his feet would start
bouncing up and down - like he was having a difficult time sitting
still for the interview. It's indeed sad that this man is head of
the most powerful country in the world. Truly embarrassing.
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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 12:52 AM
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23. He has the attention span of a gnat
and didn't seem all that interested in most of the proceedings. Every so often he'd do that little effeminate pursing of the lips. Imagine the out-takes.
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 01:25 AM
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32. Between that, and his use of "Fabulous!" so often...
NT!
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regnaD kciN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 02:32 AM
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44. Possibly "test-marketing" a new campaign slogan...?
Bush/Cheney 2004 AbFab!

;-)

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TorchTheWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 01:01 AM
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24. I thought he looked drunk
or on something. I couldn't stand more then five minutes... kept having this urge to spit at him, but that would have been a negligent waste of perfectly useful saliva.

Even in the first five minutes I never heard him complete one sentence or even manage to convey a thought. Brit was practically feeding him lines, and he still couldn't say anything that made sense.

Other then that, he reminded me of one of those electronic dummy presidents at Disneyland malfunctioning... "Well... um... er... duh... umpfff..." What an embarrassment.
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 01:05 AM
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25. He needs to fire his entire cabinet
until he does that I have no sympathy whatsoever for him
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 01:16 AM
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27. Bush could no more fire his cabinet than.....
...Kermit the Frog could have fired Jim Henson.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 01:41 AM
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36. lol!
Kermit the terminator.
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phrenzy Donating Member (941 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 02:38 AM
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45. LMAO!


Ohhhh shit - that was seriously the best LOL internet moment I've had in months...

classic - fucking classic!
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alphafemale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 05:18 AM
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53. Whee!!!!!
:yourock:
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 01:21 AM
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29. But then who would run the country?
Even further into the ground, that is...
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 01:26 AM
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34. And, more importantly, who would read the newspaper to him?
:-)
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regnaD kciN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 02:28 AM
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42. Actually...
...his cabinet should fire him.

Besides, the only cabinet he pays attention to is the one in the Oval Office that holds the Jack Danie...I mean "pretzels."

:evilgrin:
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SuffragetteSal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 02:08 PM
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60. I agree with you
his cabinet should fire him...
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stickdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 04:03 AM
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49. He can't even file his entire cabinet! (NT)
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Cat Atomic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 02:05 AM
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38. I missed this thing. Is it available online anywhere?
Sounds like an interesting trainwreck.
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Robin Hood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 02:11 AM
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39. Here you go.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,98006,00.html

Reading about a train wreck, and watching the train wreck is two different things.
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Cat Atomic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 02:15 AM
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40. Thank you very much. :)
.
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Robin Hood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 02:23 AM
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41. You're welcome,
I would take a shower after spending anytime on that filthy site.
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Lexingtonian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 02:55 AM
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46. Weren't you told?

"God is in control."

Yep, that's at bottom what our Fearless Leader believes. That's why he, the Annointed, feels perfectly entitled to f*&% up His Creation. It's just a little strange to him that when God drops by, he has a tail, a hoof, horns, and smells kinda funny.
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GalleryGod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 03:51 AM
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48. Vanity Fair,August,2000: Gail Sheehy Profile Article of PeePeePants
It was scary anf now it's OUR national nightmare:scared:
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 04:08 AM
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50. "God is in control"???
does this mean he's blaming GOD for the mess?
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Robin Hood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 05:05 AM
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52. He hasn't taken responsibility for anything else.
So why start now. I guess blaming Clinton wasn't working any more.
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Lexingtonian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 06:28 AM
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54. well, sort of

"God is in control" is one of these dogmatic tenets of the 'Christianity' that W embraced when he went into Alanon, where he then got talked into learning the Televangelist pseudotherapeutic/manipulative shtick and going into Texas politics as a stooge.

"God is in control" is a delusive responsibility-deferring approach, which is excusable to embrace as a crutch when a reeling alcoholic is trying to regain minimal control of his life. It is inexcusible in a President not dealing with an existential crisis, a President who uses some variation of it do abdicate all personal responsibility to mankind in all manner of things. It's a theological violation, too, for a powerful man to pretend it's not his duty to do anything, because mankind is the Christian God's most precious creation after all.

Of course, all of that is only to say that W is an UnChristian, which we all already know.
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joanski01 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 05:05 AM
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51. I took it for about 20 minutes.
Then I couldn't stand any more. All I could hear were umms, aaaahhh, uuuhhhhs, and more aaahhhhs. Terrible, terrible. I had thought it would be much better because they could cut out the bad parts. But the whole thing was bad. Is he going to do this at the UN today?
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Robin Hood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 12:43 PM
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55. And there was that one moment,
In the beginning, they were outside by the lawn and Brit Humerless pitched him some softball question and Bush looked away, said a couple of Ummm, and Ahhh's and then he put his lips together and flubbered his lips like a horse or an orangutan.

My god, I was so embarassed in that moment for this country. I can't believe that Fox even aired this.
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lebkuchen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 01:44 PM
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57. as opposed to Chirac
I don't speak French, but even the translator relayed the empathy that Chirac has for the unfortunate Iraqi people and the esteem with which he holds their historical culture.

Bush, meanwhile, was just reading some lines.
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