Gephardt gives Bush Hell --the Buck should stop Here!

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At a town hall meeting today in Dubuque, Iowa, Mr. Gephardt repeatedly attacked Mr. Bush, even as he struggled at times to contend with catcalls from audience members critical of the central role he played as minority leader by supporting Mr. Bush's Iraq policy last fall.

"We had a president from Missouri named Harry Truman, and he had a sign on his desk that said, `The buck stops here,' " said Mr. Gephardt in the meeting, which was televised on C-Span. "I think the president has to get that sign back on the desk."


link: New York Times -- requires registration --

http://www.nytimes.com/2003/07/14/politics/campaigns/14DEMS.html?hp

Always put blame on someone else.....

a while back with that big grin on your face? You couldn't support * enough, then. Maybe you ought to have listened to you constituents and the millions of others who knew * was a liar.

Of course you didn't think Dean was too smart with his opinion, did you? Yeah...that anti war stuff was going to bury the Gov., huh?

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And the changing sentiments about the war have provided a new affirmation for the position taken by Howard Dean, the former Vermont governor whose opposition to the war has helped power him into the front tier of the Democratic competition. Dr. Dean said today that he foresaw the shortfalls of Mr. Bush's Iraq policy from his perch in the Vermont Statehouse last fall — and mockingly questioned why his opponents in Congress had failed to do so.

"I think they bear some responsibility here," Dr. Dean said. "If I as governor of Vermont can figure out the case is not there to invade Iraq, how can three senators and a congressman who claim to have authority in public affairs manage to give the president unilateral authority to attack Iraq?"

"It looks like my analysis was the correct one and theirs was the incorrect one," he continued. "It's going to be hard for them to make the case that I don't have the credentials on foreign policy after this."

Dr. Dean also called today for the resignations of George J. Tenet, the director of central intelligence, and Stephen J. Hadley, the deputy national security adviser, pointing to reports that both men knew in October that the disputed information — that Iraq had tried to buy nuclear information from Africa — was incorrect.

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http://www.nytimes.com/2003/07/14/politics/campaigns/14DEMS.html?hp

Glad to see that Gep and the rest are on the bandwagon. Courageous fellas they are.

After (if) Clark enters, Kerry and Edwards should drop out. Not because they don't have every right to run. But that the more revelations that come out about the false intelligence and inability to find WMDs, the more foolish and suspect they all look. That Iraq vote has become a real liability to getting the nomination.

I know that I emailed everybody running, and plead with them to not be so foolish as to vote for the Iraq Resolution. I warned them along with millions of other people, that the bushies could not be trusted and that a vote for the IR would be a disator.

Too bad these arrogant pols didn't listen. Any explanation they give now for their votes ring very hollow. I personally don't want to hear it. I don't want to hear it from Lieberman, Gephardt Edwards or Kerry. That doesn't mean I won't vote for them if they are nominated. They are definately on the bottom of my list.

If the heckler was the kid in the audience who stood up to him. I think the kid won that exchange.

Does anyone for one minute believe that if either of the two "anti-war" candidates, Dean and Kucinich, were to win, that they wouldn't start a war?

Clinton started how many wars? Clinton bombed Iraq how many times? Let's not forget that a Democrat started Vietnam and Korea.

I opposed the war against Iraq, but let's be honest about what the Commander-in-Chief of the military does.

It's manufacturing excuses to conquer countries they appear to be against.

Slightly different, IMHO.

and they say it so they can talk about the "Democrat Wars"

It's all Clinton's fault! Thanks for opening my eyes. Say Glory!

Therefore I must be a closet Republican? Yeah, okay.

If you want to talk about closet Republicans, let's talk about Kerry, Dean, Lieberman, and Graham, and their pro-corporate views and votes on firing US workers and replacing then with cheap labor overseas.

I don't think voting for any specific candidate will stop war, but I do think Gephardt, Kucinich, or Braun would slow the corporatization of the Democrats and the US.

If I have to choose between those bread and butter issues versus politician's rhetoric about war, I choose the former.

Gephardt, Kucinich, Mosley-Braun, Sharpton, yes. Lieberman, Kerry, Dean, and Graham, no.

Edwards and Clark, don't know.

I guarantee that Clinton never 'started a war' and Dean and Kucinich would never 'start a war.' Bush started a war. He picked a fight and sent our troops to die for his lies.

Dean and Kucinich definately would not do that. I really don't know many other people who would do that. Only a zealot and madman 'start wars.'

Of course Dean, Kucinich, and Clinton would, like any reasonable human being, defend national interests when they come under attack and make an effort to prevent human catastrophe where they could.

Yes, I know he had the noble purpose of restoring democracy to Haiti, just like Bush Sr. said he was restoring democracy to Kuwait. Lies and damned lies. What do you expect from politicians?

I'm not looking for Mother Theresa to be president, I want a tough sleazy politician that's on my side. That's Gephardt, Kucninch, Mosley-Braun, and Sharpton, maybe Edwards and Clark. I'll vote for the one I think has the best chance of beating Bush. I prefer Kucinich, who is "anti-war" so why are you criticizing me? I don't believe for a second if he was president he wouldn't start a war.

"Democrats started Vietnam . . ." is erroneous. I might suggest you conduct research as to whose presidency and under which Secretary of State was in the White House when we began sending in "advisors."

He was absent when they voted on the overtime bill, bad move.

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