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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 11:17 PM
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Why Gulag description is accurate - Immoral use of psychiciatrists @ Gitmo
>>Interrogators Cite Doctors' Aid at Guantánamo

By NEIL A. LEWIS
Published: June 24, 2005

WASHINGTON, June 23 - Military doctors at Guantánamo Bay, Cuba, have aided interrogators in conducting and refining coercive interrogations of detainees, including providing advice on how to increase stress levels and exploit fears, according to new, detailed accounts given by former interrogators.

The accounts, in interviews with The New York Times, come as mental health professionals are debating whether psychiatrists and psychologists at the prison camp have violated professional ethics codes. The Pentagon and mental health professionals have been examining the ethical issues involved.

The former interrogators said the military doctors' role was to advise them and their fellow interrogators on ways of increasing psychological duress on detainees, sometimes by exploiting their fears, in the hopes of making them more cooperative and willing to provide information. In one example, interrogators were told that a detainee's medical files showed he had a severe phobia of the dark and suggested ways in which that could be manipulated to induce him to cooperate.

In addition, the authors of an article published by The New England Journal of Medicine this week said their interviews with doctors who helped devise and supervise the interrogation regimen at Guantánamo showed that the program was explicitly designed to increase fear and distress among detainees as a means to obtaining intelligence.<<

http://nytimes.com/2005/06/24/politics/24gitmo.html?hp&ex=1119585600&en=0bb87618febc3438&ei=5094&partner=homepage

One of the biggest fears on the former Soviet union was to be seen by "psychiatrist", because he was there to help.

Albeit, we're using for these immoral purposes on a much smaller scale the comparisons to gulag style techiniques are accurate.

It's ironic that the attrocities of these Soviet doctors are depicted liberally in the right wing press. But when we use crude versions of the same techniques, they right suddenly becomes deaf and dumb.

If any winger thinks that the left never spoke out against Soviet crimes yet has spoken out against our "alleged" ones, I refer them to Amnesty International: http://pb.rcpsych.org/cgi/content/full/24/4/121

They have been pretty consistent on this matter.
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johnaries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 11:28 PM
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1. Whatever happened to the Hippocratic oath?
These "doctors" should have their licenses revoked and thrown in jail.
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 11:49 PM
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2. I guess the Hippocratic Oath doesn't apply..
Edited on Thu Jun-23-05 11:49 PM by BuffyTheFundieSlayer
if they aren't actually treating the person,

or in the case of lowly prisoners who don't deserve anything better than three meals and a free Koran.


:sarcasm:
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 12:05 AM
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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 12:13 AM
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4. People like you really amaze me
George Bush can pull any bullshit stunt and you wouldn't bat an eye.

I guess the irony totally escapes you.
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 12:20 AM
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7. I see Mr. Truckin' got himself TSed real quick. n/t
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 12:16 AM
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5. By all means
we can't afford to understand our enemies...let's just attack them willy-nilly with no long-term plan or exit strategy.

Sounds like a plan.

A neocon plan.

If you can call it a 'plan' at all.

Let's call a war on terror without defining any set objectives. That way, we can attack ANYBODY and say it's part of the War on Terror.

And let the sheeple cheer.

How is it that ANYBODY buys this shit anymore?
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BikeWriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 01:04 AM
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9. A damned good question, Pard.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 02:04 AM
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 12:17 AM
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6. What a perversion. This is disgusting...
The name Mengele comes to mind. Oh, wait, no Nazi references, right?
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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 12:41 AM
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8. When I noted that winger's should challenge my point
Little did I think that the fuckers would take me up on my offer

Dumbshits
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