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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 02:56 PM
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Can you smell their desperation? They are going down in flames...
...and they know it. What are they going to do to stop it? Whatever it is, I fear it will cost lives. And, when it's done, will we be at the gate with pitchforks and torches?

Or should I just take a pill and go lie down?

Somebody give me a reality check. Quick!
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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 03:00 PM
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1. Never misunderestimate them...
Edited on Fri Jun-24-05 03:00 PM by deutsey
:evilgrin:

In the meantime, organize for anti-war demonstrations in September.

www.unitedforpeace.org
www.internationalanswer.org
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iconoclastic cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 03:02 PM
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6. Yeah, I just read about those protests. I hope some happen in Chicago.
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BattyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 03:00 PM
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2. I agree with you
they may be going down but they won't go quietly ... or alone. I fear many more people are going to end up dead before this is all over. :scared:
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Kraklen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 03:01 PM
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3. Yes they are.
June 30th photo dump should be a real haymaker.
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lenidog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 03:41 PM
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19. Why do you think that
You don't think that the grand switcheroo hasn't already been made or they just might not release them at all. I mean in the article I just read the ACLU stated they don't know whats in the photos have gotten released they are only guessing at it because of 8 sample photos they saw. We have got one of the most corrupt and evil administrations ever and every seems to think they are going to play by the rules and that is one of the reasons we keep getting screwed.
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iconoclastic cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 03:01 PM
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4. Once you've killed about 130,000ish people, you officially don't care.
Of course they would cost lives. They've killed 100,000 Iraqis, who knows how many Afghans, plus any MIHOP- or LIHOP-related deaths; believe me, they don't have any problem killing. Long ago, they crossed the line from everyday villany to cartoonish super-villany.
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Melodybe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 03:01 PM
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5. If the AG pictures come out, and the torture of children is common
knowledge then Rummy will definately be gone and possibly Gonzales.

You are not nuts, damn they are the ones that have lost all tough with reality.
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iconoclastic cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 03:03 PM
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7. Hey, do you have a good, current link on that new AG pic situation?
I'm finding a lot of old stuff, but nothing about what is happening right now. Thanks!
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 03:09 PM
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8. Court-mandated release date of photos: 6/30/2005
Seymour Hersch has already described the videos. It will be Abu Ghraib/Gitmo II and it will stick like glue. There will be no spinning out of this one. Bu$hco is toast.
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iconoclastic cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 03:11 PM
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10. Don't TEASE me, man!
Gimme a link!
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 03:21 PM
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15. The date (6/30) was all over the news a few weeks back.
Edited on Fri Jun-24-05 03:26 PM by DemoTex
I'll try to find a link to Seymour Hersh's comments.

On edit 1: http://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?threadid=78037

On edit 2: Seymour Hersch quote from above link:

"Some of the worst things that happened you don't know about, okay? Videos, um, there are women there. Some of you may have read that they were passing letters out, communications out to their men. This is at Abu Ghraib ... The women were passing messages out saying 'Please come and kill me, because of what's happened' and basically what happened is that those women who were arrested with young boys, children in cases that have been recorded. The boys were sodomized with the cameras rolling. And the worst above all of that is the soundtrack of the boys shrieking that your government has. They are in total terror. It's going to come out."
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iconoclastic cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 03:26 PM
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17. Damn, you're good. I didn't see that story before. Thanks!
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UdoKier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 03:11 PM
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9. Yeah, yeah, they're toast this has legs blah blah blah
This is about the 49 bajillionth time I've read this posted over next to nothing.

If only it were true...
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 03:17 PM
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12. Maybe you're right. But a confluence of events...
...seems to be reaching critical mass.
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lenidog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 03:17 PM
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13. Gotta admit that you are right. I don't think a day has passed
since November that I have not seen a thread like this. They are toast, they are running in fear, we have the smoking gun, we have the proof, etc, etc. Next day I wake up and its the same stuff different day.
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 03:16 PM
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11.  I SMELL the beginning of the 2006 and 2008 campaign platform.
Republicans will protect you better from terrorists. Period!

That was their theme in 2004 and they "won" and plan on using it till the end of the war on terror. They will be using it when our Great Grandchildren are old.
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KarenS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 03:22 PM
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16. but, but they ARE the terrorists,,,,,

Voting Republican is kinda like paying the mafia for "protection".
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 03:19 PM
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14. When morons* polls go down to 40 and below, look out!
They will pull all the plugs. You think they don't care now? Just watch then. They will start feeding on there young.
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 03:29 PM
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18. If this had been a poll, so far, a few folks think I should take a pill.
But everyone else seems to agree that something's coming. For the record, I'm not usually one to declare that the sky is falling. But I just can't shake this sense of foreboding.
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corbett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 09:31 PM
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20. Sniff, Sniff! I Smell The Desperation, Too!
http://www.amnestyusa.org/investigate.html
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Fight_n_back Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 09:52 PM
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21. And the insurgency is in their final throes
When Nixon resigned did anyone think that half his cabinet would continue in power for the next thirty years?

We are going to be fighting these assholes for the rest of our lives.
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 11:03 PM
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22. They've been plotting their return to power since the New Deal.
Which means that some of them are second, or even third, generation torch carriers for the dethroned robber-barons of the early twentieth century.
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