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tboullett Donating Member (400 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 12:00 AM
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Sign at Clark Headquarters, "Nam Vets, need not apply"
I spoke to someone in the Clark staff tonight who told me my assistance was not wanted, “Because Nam Vets are too unstable“. I’m talking about Vets working from anything from answering phones , opening letters, to offering advice to the General. I know of many Veterans who have been turned away because they are Vets. I was told by the Little Rock office “No Veterans Allowed”. I was told to “Contact your local Clark supporters to volunteer,” yet they had no names to give to us to talk to about volunteering.

I think Clark is being mislead by political hacks who profited from the “Draft Clark” campaigns.

If they were TRUE followers, they would be working for free, as Veterans have volunteered to do.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 12:02 AM
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1. If this is the case
he is making a HUGE mistake, as he is a Nam Vet
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Diogenes2 Donating Member (344 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 12:03 AM
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2. Unbelievable
eom
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 12:04 AM
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4. No, it's not believable.
Not in the slightest.
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tboullett Donating Member (400 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 12:24 AM
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21. Name ONE Nam Vet on Clark's staff
Name ONE Nam Vet on Clark's staff


Something isn't right here. Why is Clark's staff keeping Grunts away from being volunteers? Vets are going crazy over Clark as a candidate and will vote for him. We know he is being touted as the Veteran candidate.

If it is important enough to bring up his Nam Background, then why are Nam Vets being told to stay away from the Clark race by his staff?

I know of over 100 Veterans that have been told to go away by the Clark staff. What's going on here?

Someone please tell me of a Viet Nam Vet who is on Clark's staff.

Please shut me up.

Name ONE Nam Vet working in the Little Rock office, doing anything.
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 12:33 AM
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30. How about Clark himself? Does he count as a Vietnam vet...
...or does getting shot four times not count anymore?

Your accusation rings more than a little hollow. Clark won't turn away fellow Vietnam vets unless they exhibit some personal mannerisms that may cause more than a little alarm. So, tell us all about how you introduced yourself.
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tboullett Donating Member (400 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 12:40 AM
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35. Of course it does
We know Clark would never turn away Nam Vets. We are complaining about his staff, who turned us away.

They contacted our group of volunteers. When it was discovered we were Nam Vets, we were asked to not contact the staff in any way. To go away, never call the headquarters.

It's not Clark we are upset with, it's the people who are controlling everything in the campaign. We begged to work as volunteers. We were turned away.
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Langis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 12:04 AM
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3. I hear he also
Kills babies! OMG we can't vote for a baby killer!
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 12:05 AM
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Langis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 12:07 AM
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6. Whatever gave you that idea?
n/t
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tboullett Donating Member (400 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 12:27 AM
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25. A group of us were told to get ready to work for Clark
When it was discovered we were Nam Vets, we were told to stay away...Nam Vets are too unstable to work here...

Just name one Nam Vet who talks to General Clark.

We want to volunteer to work for him. We don't want paychecks like the campaign hacks that have taken over the Democratic process.
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 12:37 AM
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34. Please stop. You're making yourself look worse with each post.
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 12:07 AM
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7. How many times?
are you going to pull this crap? First, you make a feeble attempt at smearing Kerry, which was easily debunked by DUers. Then, you go for Clark, initially attacking him because you had a beef with some guy who worked in a Draft Clark office. Now this, which I would bet good money is a complete falsehood. This is so divisive and disruptive. Seriously Rusty, give it up!
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tboullett Donating Member (400 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 12:18 AM
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19. Please provide the links where I smeared Kerry?
Please provide the links where I smeared Kerry?

I never did.
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 12:25 AM
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23. See my post #9...you did
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tboullett Donating Member (400 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 12:30 AM
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27. Wrong, we wanted to support Kerry
We wanted to support a Nam Vet, when Kerry didn't show at the forum our tickets were yanked.

We never smeared Kerry, only questioned the reasons Vet were not given the tickets we were promised.
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Julien Sorel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 12:08 AM
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8. And where did you speak with these people?
Who were they? It wouldn't be the Prince of Darkness, aka, Jason, would it? Still at the same old games?

How's the 'Veterans Against Clark' movement going? Last I heard, you had offices in all 50 states and were in the process of filing for your charter as a non-profit corporation. I would have thought that, with that project on your plate, you'd be too busy to volunteer for the very same campaign you have been agitating against for months now.
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 12:08 AM
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9. I think you spent your credibility on the Veteran's tickets
Edited on Wed Sep-24-03 12:09 AM by nothingshocksmeanymo
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OrdinaryTa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 12:08 AM
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10. Then He Spat At You
What a ridiculous story.
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 12:09 AM
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11. I don't like Clark. In fact, due to the way he's riding Dean's tailwind,
Edited on Wed Sep-24-03 12:11 AM by Jim Sagle
I kind of hate his guts.

But this is no way to bring him down.

In fact, the fact that someone is desperate enough to pull this is a big point in his favor.
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Bertrand Donating Member (764 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 12:09 AM
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12. Honestly
this cant be true, or there must be some sort of misunderstanding or something. There is NO way that a major candidate would turn away vets, especially one running on his military record. They might as well say "Old people" or "blacks" need not apply.
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 12:16 AM
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17. there is nothin "honest" about this anti-DEM slander...
I will not let posters piss down my neck and tell me it is raining- this thread is BULLSHIT
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pruner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 12:10 AM
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13. did the sign say anything about long-haired people?
n/t
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 12:14 AM
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14. You are a (edited per rules)
mods- you KNOW I am right. I work for the Democratic party, and I have NEVER heard such NONSENSE in my life- we have several vets in our own local organization- no one would EVER say to a volunteer that that "Vets are unstable"- you are a (edied per rules) and you know it...

This is the most OUTRAGEOUS, unproven and slanderous thing i think I have ever seen.
 
tboullett Donating Member (400 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 12:33 AM
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29. Ask where the Vets are that were asked to come work for the Clark campaign
Where are the Vets that were suppose to be working for Clark starting tomorrow?

Where are any Nam Vets in the Clark race?
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 12:35 AM
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33. The vets in my DEM organization work very hard- thank you...
...but then again, I am talking about REALITY as opposed to anti-DEM propaganda.

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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 12:33 AM
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31. I don't care if your name is Al Gore, you can't break DU rules!
You still have time to re-edit your post!
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 12:14 AM
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kayleybeth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 12:16 AM
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16. What's next? Clark drinks babies' blood?
This is just getting so silly.

Give it a rest, please.
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Bertrand Donating Member (764 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 12:27 AM
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24. Actually, thats true
He believes it to give him eternal life. Well, that and the O2 injections.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 12:16 AM
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18. Come meet my little friend
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Democrats unite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 12:23 AM
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20. I smell a pile of that stuff they been shoveling out of
Washington D.C. since Bush got there.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 12:25 AM
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 12:28 AM
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26. At some point we have to call these posts like we see them...
Edited on Wed Sep-24-03 12:34 AM by Dr Fate
...this thread is an OUTRAGEOUS LIE like I have never seen- Concerned posters should modify the mods like I have.


(titled edited)
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Carmerian Donating Member (203 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 12:31 AM
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28. I did too
This is the third time this guy has been libelling Dems on this board. I hope it's his last.
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pa28 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 12:34 AM
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32. Odd
I searched tboullett and found he started a thread about a month ago promoting a group called "Veterans Against Clark". Now he wants to work for Clark?
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 12:43 AM
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36. Is that right tboullett? You were promoting a group called...
..."Veterans Against Clark" here at DU, and now you say you want to work for him? Is that the case?

Don

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FlemingsGhost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 12:44 AM
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37. Hey DUers-- could it be there is one particular 'Nam vet...
the Clark campaign found to be "unstable?"

Try and guess who I have in mind...
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